Mozilla is getting into crypto.

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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by MrMobodies » 2022-02-10, 09:24

moonbat wrote:
2022-01-08, 13:00
Eduardo Lucas wrote:
2022-01-07, 14:09
they are one of the biggest corporate manipulative liars that ever existed?
Pretty much turned to shit after ousting their CEO Brendan Eich (the creator of Javascript, no less, who went and created Brave browser) and bringing in the SJW crowd. 1 It's a fair bet that none of the current fanboys have used it before 2011 when it started going to the dogs by aping Chrome. Mozilla fanboys are the biggest masochists around, finding all sorts of mental gymnastics to justify the 'privacy respecting' narrative that wears thinner every day.

1 That is exactly right for me. Due to the glitches with the newer releases I just used Firefox 22 up to late 2017 until stopped displaying websites properly.

My dissatisfaction started off with Alex Limi in about 2013 but one thing I didn't expect was for it to turn into Chrome lookalike.

https://limi.net
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Seem to Care more about removing the javascript button in settings.
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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by Utnapishtim » 2022-02-14, 07:43

MrMobodies wrote:
2022-02-10, 09:24
https://limi.net
Previously, he led Firefox User Experience & Product Design at Mozilla
Seem to Care more about removing the javascript button in settings.
User experience where he dictated it.
This sure is a hilarious tidbit from a 2011 post:

https://limi.net/safari
People are often surprised when we tell them that we’re not trying to “win the marketshare game,” but instead make sure that there is a thriving, diverse ecosystem on the web, with no single dominant player — which at this point, Mozilla has succeeded spectacularly at — compared to a few years ago, when the browser market was stagnant, and one browser dominated the web.
Yes, Mozilla did spectacularly succeed at not winning the marketshare game :lol:

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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-02-14, 11:15

Utnapishtim wrote:
2022-02-14, 07:43
Yes, Mozilla did spectacularly succeed at not winning the marketshare game :lol:
Not just that, for years now they have worked very hard at killing the more diverse ecosystem by aiming to be just like Chrome, and guess what? What we have said at the very beginning of that process has come to pass: People will use Chrome instead of an inferior clone. And Firefox has been constantly bleeding users as a result.
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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by juxwillx » 2022-02-16, 12:09

They should focus on improving their browser first

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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2022-02-16, 13:48

juxwillx wrote:
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They should focus on improving their browser first
They won't do that.
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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-02-16, 13:57

Pentium4User wrote:
2022-02-16, 13:48
juxwillx wrote:
2022-02-16, 12:09
They should focus on improving their browser first
They won't do that.
They'd argue that they are doing that. It just so happens that their interpretation of "improving" doesn't stroke with the rest of the world very well.
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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by MrMobodies » 2022-02-18, 05:57

When I type in the address bar want to see what I am typing and nothing else.
They have now improved it to spam in one of the worst ways possible with ad suggestions in the search bar but at least it can be switched off.

https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/7/2271 ... ds-browser
“When contextual suggestions are enabled, Firefox Suggest uses your city location and search keywords to make contextual suggestions from Firefox and our partners, while keeping your privacy in mind,” the support post reads. The “relevant suggestions” from “trusted partners” appear at the bottom of the usual search suggestions pulled from your bookmarks, browser history, and open tabs — a less intrusive version of a search ad, but technically still an ad.
But how are they going to know that? So track the ip address, look it up on some Geolookup service and share it with their "partners" with the suggestions from bookmarks, browser tabs and and open tabs, pretty much focusing on everything the user is doing.

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Looks to me like they are desperate.

https://www.techspot.com/news/93449-fir ... t-new.html
Mozilla aims to reduce its dependance on Google
By Cohen Coberly February 17, 2022, 6:26 PM
According to a new report from Wired, Firefox only services a mere four percent of the Internet's browser users, a far cry from the twenty percent it boasted over a decade ago.

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Re: Mozilla is getting into crypto.

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-02-18, 06:40

They were sitting on a gold mine - the Mozilla Application Platform, on which Firefox and Thunderbird were built. Combined with XUL Runner, it would've been a powerful way of quickly developing desktop applications for corporate use with just a knowledge of XML for XUL, and Javascript (both of which are easier to find developers for compared to say C++ or Qt), with the option of writing your own native XPCOM components in C++. Could've partnered with the Eclipse Foundation to create an official IDE and developer tools, hired a few decent technical writers to fix up the documentation and offered this as a licensed commercial technology for corporate IT. Let's face it, they have been rolling in Google search result money from the start and if they had had any brains, should've seen the problem of being funded by a user data harvesting company right then in the mid 2000s before Google created Chrome. There already have been standalone 3rd party applications like the Songbird media manager, which use the same technology and are extensible using extensions and themes the same way as Firefox pre 57/Thunderbird/Pale Moon are. And maybe by the time mobile OSes took off, MAF could be ported to Android the same way, using Android specific XUL to create extensions for Firefox mobile.

But sloppy coding practices and zero sense of documentation is a part of the Netscape heritage, given that browser decided to throw away its entire version 4 codebase and start from scratch, thereby guaranteeing its fall to irrelevance in the face of IE 5.5.
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