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Just backup your entire damn profile folder with the UXP application in question closed

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-11-03, 11:10

This is a rant.

People unnecessarily overcomplicate their lives and then run around in circles. Moving your browser (or even Interlink for that matter) profile data to a new client is somewhat applicable.

Mozilla applications (at least at the same version level as when UXP was forked, no comment on how things currently work in Mozilla land) are entirely self contained within the profile directory. Everything they need is stored there be it bookmarks, cookies, browser history, extensions, themes mail folders, email filters and what not. So if you're moving your data to another computer on the same OS family (as in not between say Windows and Linux), just exit from Interlink/Pale Moon/Basilisk and backup your entire profile directory. Dump it in the exact same location on your new computer and everything will work as it is. Instead you have people dicking around with extensions and FEBE and manually tampering with the sqlite databases that are there.

Don't be a total dumbfuck (as I've seen here several times) and try to copy a current Firefox profile to Pale Moon or vice versa, either - both of them have irreversibly diverged and their profiles are no longer interchangeable. Same goes for different OSes - Linux <-> Windows.

Then there's the uber paranoid kind who refuse to upgrade their 3 or 4 years out of date version 'because it will break extensions'. This is not Firefox or Chrome with their retarded 'move fast and break everything with every new fortnightly release' ideology. Even breaking changes like the removal of the Firefox ID compatibility hack have been announced several years in advance and it's nobody else's fault if you don't fork or find alternatives for the extensions you're using (this when there's like 250+ ported as well as exclusive extensions on the PM addons site already).

So you do a direct upgrade from your ancient version 27 to current, leapfrogging over major, massive changes to the certificate store that necessitate a piecemeal upgrade that was mentioned here earlier and then again wail about a broken profile because you didn't think to back it up first when doing it after so long.

The sheer dumbassery of humanity on display every day via the internet (of which this is but a tiny subset) is why I'm such a misanthrope.
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Re: Just backup your entire damn profile folder with the UXP application in question closed

Unread post by Blacklab » 2021-11-03, 12:36

This is not a rant.

Breath deeply. Relax. Enjoy life. Worse things happen at sea. :D :wave:

The link to the 'Pale Moon profile backup tool ' might come in handy: https://www.palemoon.org/backuptool.shtml

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We all overcomplicate our lives, just in different ways, some with computery and modern technology, others with all manner of life's trials and tribulations. I very much doubt many people get themselves in a mess intentionally, more usually it happens by accident, bad luck, lack of awareness, lack of knowledge, or lack of expertise. The forum is here to help and inform them. :)

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-11-03, 12:44

Speaking of, if people are interested I could make the tool be compatible with multiple applications so it would work on more than just Pale Moon. There's just never been much feedback on it and I have no idea how many people are actually using it.
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Unread post by Figueroa » 2021-11-03, 14:56

FEBE allows you to choose what to backup and what to leave behind. Only a dumbfuck would think that the only way to do things is the way that he prefers.

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Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-11-03, 14:58

And yet that is exactly what you are doing.

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Unread post by Figueroa » 2021-11-03, 21:45

Nope. I do not *think* that my way is the only way or that others who choose another way are lesser for it.

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Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-11-03, 21:56

Well FEBE will be an academic point once FUEL is gone, again. Unless someone steps up and forks it or get permission to continue to from the "retired" developer.

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Unread post by Figueroa » 2021-11-04, 01:12

Rogue? The extension's author published instructions on how to fix it. Nothing rogue about it.

And gloating? Discussing how to make an extension work is not gloating. Why would you even care?

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Unread post by moonbat » 2021-11-04, 02:10

Figueroa wrote:
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Rogue? The extension's author published instructions on how to fix it. Nothing rogue about it.
Rogue refers to unauthorized distribution or violation of the original extension's license, given that that's happened plenty of times with others.
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Unread post by ron_1 » 2021-11-04, 02:10

I started "computering" almost 22 years ago now (wow, time flies). Back then people took the time to understand how things worked, at least to a little degree if not more so. Now today, it seems that nobody know jack sh*t about how computers and browsers and such work. What happened? :problem:

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Unread post by moonbat » 2021-11-04, 02:12

ron_1 wrote:
2021-11-04, 02:10
What happened? :problem:
Mobile phone internet usage overtook desktop usage, starting around 2012-13 or so. That exponentially increased as well as dumbed down the userbase.
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Unread post by Giraffe » 2021-11-04, 08:51

Moonchild wrote:
2021-11-03, 12:44
Speaking of, if people are interested I could make the tool be compatible with multiple applications so it would work on more than just Pale Moon. There's just never been much feedback on it and I have no idea how many people are actually using it.
Hekasoft can back up email and browser data and it's possible to add other things to it.
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Unread post by Bilbo47 » 2021-11-05, 23:46

I could make the tool ... work on more than just Pale Moon.
Oooh, that would be sweet! Making it more useful might make it get used more :) Whenever I started a codebase to decode/analyze Moz-style apps and data, this design goal was baked in from the start: target or be able to deal with any app having a Moz-like structure for profiles+prefs.

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