Mobile <-> desktop UI possible with stylesheets?

[moonbat]

Why is it that none of the modern web frameworks that are in fashion can provide a decent desktop UI without gigantic fonts and whitespace? Is it not possible to apply different styles to different sections of a page (or show/hide them at will) based on whether the user is on a mobile or device or not?

Is it a matter of lack of intention or is it not technically feasible? The way I visualize it is, the content of the page is the same regardless of device. The stuff around it should be replaceable - have a slide out menu by all means if it's a mobile device but show a decent horizontal menu with breadcrumbs or mouseover popup on a desktop device and show/hide them accordingly. Or even include different javascript files if they are to be all dynamically generated. Use a smaller set of icons for desktop users, show additional controls/widgets that they can benefit from, on demand. Why is this so hard to do?

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Same basic experience everywhere starting with the lowest common denominator. This is a topic discussed often. Search for some of the previous ones. Back in the day a site would via stylesheets show almost completely independent design and UX depending on device. THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON FOR THE BIG PUSH TO CSS AND THESE NEWER TAGS LIKE DIV.

[moonbat]

Looks like they decided that the lowest common denominator was enough for everybody and no need to provide anything further.

[Moonchild]

Proper responsive design allows for optimized layouts for different resolutions. Yes that does mean you can have a desktop design at large res and a mobile design at small res. It really isn't that difficult (this is why media queries for viewport size exist). BUT, if you outsource your website design to India, you can't expect them to actually put in this kind of work when "responsive" can also mean just moving a few divs around as opposed to designing actually different layouts.

[Суки читают]

Back in the day a site would via stylesheets show almost completely independent design and UX depending on device.

What is UX? I guess it's User eXperience, but that still sounds kind of vague. Is there a difference between UI and UX?

Proper responsive design allows for optimized layouts for different resolutions. Yes that does mean you can have a desktop design at large res and a mobile design at small res.

For me, responsive has become synonymous with ugly, gigantic, resource-heavy, optimized for mobile. Oh, and don't forget using a database icon for menu. Do you have any examples of websites using "proper" responsive design?

[Moonchild]

Super basic but try the Basilisk website.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

I simply refuse to design for mobile since none of my activities involve small form factor magic slabs of glass designed to drain the humanity out of people. I only work on and design for technology that enhances humanity and uplifts them through expansion of capabilities, knowledge, and enlightenment. You won't find any of that with a magic slab of glass made by slaves.

[moonbat]

Is there a difference between UI and UX

User interface vs user experience.

A well designed UI will lead to better UX.