Article: "Most Secure Browser List," Palemoon on Top Five list

[Dustie_Rose]

Interesting reading, website previously called "BestVpn," had this posted. Nice to see a pleasant read about Palemoon.

<https://proprivacy.com/guides/most-secure-browsers>

Most Secure Browsers - Secure & Private Browsing
Last Updated: April 29, 2019 Written by Douglas Crawford

Pale Moon browser

Pale Moon is a lightweight and highly customizable open source fork of Firefox. Unlike Waterfox, its code has separated completely from Firefox. It is compatible with many classic Firefox add-ons, but not all of them.
It is not compatible with Firefox’s new WebExtensions add-ons, but it has a growing library of add-ons that have been rebuilt specifically for Pale Moon.
Much of Pale Moon has been updated with code from more recent versions of Firefox, but its user interface remains the highly customizable XUL-based front-end last seen in Firefox 28. This includes support for a wide range of custom themes and skins.
Pale Moon does not offer any "special privacy features” as such, but it doesn't contain dubious, privacy-invading software, included in other mainstream browsers.
Although it provides a “close adherence to official web standards and specifications” Pale Moon is still working on full support for HTML5 and CSS3, so it can struggle when rendering some web pages.
Some users say that it lags behind with security updates, but this is very unfair. It can take up to a week before Mozilla allows the Pale Moon developers access to its latest patches, but these are always implemented as soon as possible and are always up-to-date.
Pale Moon is available for both Windows and Linux.
Dustie_Rose

[vannilla]

Yeah, it's really nice to finally see some nice words. The author of the article at least tried to be as objective as possible.
Now what we need is for people to realize that not every issue that can impact security on Firefox/Chrome applies to Pale Moon/Basilisk, regardless of the time that passes between the issue discover and when Moonchild and the others can get access on it.

[Moonchild]

Pale Moon is still working on full support for HTML5 and CSS3, so it can struggle when rendering some web pages.

HTML5 and CSS3 support both depends on who you are listening to, AND so-called full support is unobtainable. Full support according to which draft? Not a single browser supports 100% of it, because it is a "living standard", as in, there is no standards level and it is constantly changed. Chrome, Edge, Firefox and every other browser out there does not have full support for HTML5 and CSS3 either. Oh by the way, did you know there's also CSS4?
It is our desire to closely adhere to it, but that is where it makes sense. We're not blindly going implement whatever they cook up if it's not actually being used by at least a small percentage of websites out there. Besides, if websites use bleeding edge corner-case standards rules, they'd better have shims ready to be compatible with mainstream browsers.

[Kingpin]

Why is Firefox even there, and in the first place even? Have they already forgotten the extension disaster? And only a cursory look at their privacy policy is needed to ascertain that they collect an absolute mountain of data.

[John connor]

Why is Firefox even there, and in the first place even? Have they already forgotten the extension disaster? And only a cursory look at their privacy policy is needed to ascertain that they collect an absolute mountain of data.

That's what I was thinking. Even Chrome. I guess it all depends on how you define "secure."

Tor is really not secure at all. I did some research on it and created a blog post about how the FBI has their mitts in it and everything else in between. Now anonymous, perhaps. I'd use a bridge in the Tor browser and a good, reputable VPN.

[rickmv]

Stopped at FF being the first in the list with all its tracking on by default build right in its preferences. At least PM was mentioned, even that at the bottom. Brave is just pushed around and promoted as the savior of privacy only because of the ex-zilla Exec. Only to track back through its vetted ads and track exemption system, FB and Twitter being the two big beneficiaries being left out from blocking right in the browser code. An no word of Vivaldi. Lame article.

[Dustie_Rose]

I do agree with what you all are stating in regards to FF, Tor, and Brave. Not sure what the criteria was used to compile the article. Found in interesting it did not mention Vivaldi either. I have been using it as my secondary browser and it has really come along way with each update. It has free webmail which i use and have seen no junk, also cloud to sync across devices. I saw the same article on another site recently. At least it is mentioned in various places. I appreciate not being mainstream, my PM works for my needs as far as security on Linux Mint and my other distros. I love the sync which I use across all my devices. Much gratitude for all the effort the team has continuously put whole heartedly into making this the best on any list in my opinion.
Dustie

[Dustie_Rose]

I always avoid anything that has always been considered "mainstream," case in point: CHROME, FIREFOX, OR I.E. It has become quite obvious as many times as my user data has been compromised first by my bank, all related to mainstream software and association with .gov sites, etc; not by any actions i have taken or applications I have used.
I had to use Windows and associated platforms and OSs, for school, work, etc. As soon as I left all that behind, which was the year I switched to Linux, already used Palemoon as my backup for security related activities. I have not had any issues with security since. Except the usual crap like on Github:
"We no longer support your browser, please switch to Firefox or other updated browser." or
"Your browser is not supported by our website." my answer is "goodby."
There are always issues like this, and many more. Security practice has always been my pieve. I practice more of it than most I have ever seen and the majority of people don't even pay attention to. So as long as Palemoon and the other browsers are not commonality, I will always be a happy user.
By the way, Palemoon works beautifully on Linux Ubuntu's fork, called "ULTIMATE EDITION KDE version O.S.
Thanks once again for all you guys perserverance in keeping on and puttin up wth all the crap. LOL.
Dustie_Rose

[Pelican]

Sorry, but that list does not take into account the browsers specially designed to protect the user's computer from being hijacked. I was not aware until recently that there were such things until a client pointed one out to compare with browsers that I knew.

That one in particular had funding of 12 million, a lot of which must have been well spent on publicity due to its SEO. But they went broke... I see a lot of overnight wonders wound up after only a couple of years flogging a BS product.

[Moonchild]

well spent on publicity

they went broke

a BS product

Considering these key parts of your post -- did you expect anything else?

[Pelican]

did you expect anything else?

Well the press releases were impressive and must have impressed some technically minded folks because one client who is in the data protection industry depended on it as an integral part of their services.

The PR was some of the most exquisite wordsmithing I have ever read (wish I could afford some). But the bottom line to me was "why bother trying to build a browser that will prevent a fool from getting hijacked by trojans?" Network administrators usually have those things covered already.