[Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by UCyborg » 2025-12-21, 17:23

Speaking of frustrations, it appears to me with recent updates, 32-bit version took notable hit in stability. While they're talking about crashing bugs in 33.9.1, in my use, it's only the 32-bit version that is randomly crashing, and that's with light use, I realize it shouldn't be pushed too hard.

I also got them on another computer with 32-bit version (where I normally use 64-bit version). Same old sites basically.

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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by Mæstro » 2025-12-21, 17:48

Instability in the 32-bit version should be reported in the Browser Support forum with as much information about conditions which cause crashing, even if they are probabilistic. (It was certainly a reportable bug when Windows Me could crash while idling on desktop!) Unlike predatory SNS, a support group like here would actually welcome your feedback in the hope that we can squash these bugs.
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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by UCyborg » 2025-12-21, 18:10

They could be related to known bugs.

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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by MasterSlenderTR » 2025-12-24, 05:33

sidology wrote:
2025-11-22, 12:47
It's what it is. Not enough developers.

That's why I suggested (optionally) using WebView2 for user selected sites.
You don't even have to install WebView2, you can use the Fixed version.

Download the latest Fixed version (x64, not arm64): https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/m ... H#download

Extract that cab file to (for example) C:\Microsoft.WebView2.FixedVersionRuntime.142.0.3595.94.x64, rename it to C:\WebView2

Add this environment variable and that's it.

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Environment]
"WEBVIEW2_BROWSER_EXECUTABLE_FOLDER"="C:\\WebView2"
I'd recommend this PM extension over WebView2: https://addons.palemoon.org/addon/subwebview/
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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by Navigator » 2026-01-10, 17:25

UCyborg wrote:
2025-12-08, 09:07
Am I missing something? Can I see somewhere in GUI to what % zoom level is set? Basilisk shows it in URL bar if zoom level is set to other than 100%.
Try Zoom Label.

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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by Night Wing » 2026-01-10, 18:16

Navigator wrote:
2026-01-10, 17:25
UCyborg wrote:
2025-12-08, 09:07
Am I missing something? Can I see somewhere in GUI to what % zoom level is set? Basilisk shows it in URL bar if zoom level is set to other than 100%.
Try Zoom Label.
I also use Zoom Label. It works great. Very good suggestion.
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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by chrisriley+3000 » 2026-01-11, 19:56

Yes, it can be annoying and frustrating for me too, because I still go on several gaming sites that are powered by Pale Moon, some days it runs smoothly, other days the sites are down. One of them is Bonuslevel.org, another is Armor Games, NewGrounds, Crazygames and Miniclip. Not sure if any of you are familiar with those specific websites. It's like a roll of the dice, you never know when the site is going to be down and not working.

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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by Mæstro » 2026-01-11, 20:26

Sticking with archived versions of these sites is best. ;)
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Re: [Vent] Being Pale Moon user is frustrating

Post by UCyborg » 2026-01-12, 22:47

I do use slightly modified version of Zoom Label extension, which I posted here. I was just wondering about the lack of native indicator in the browser itself.

On the random hangs, can't reproduce them when attempting to reproduce them. Just happens out of the blue when least expected.

I frequented miniclip.com years ago when they still had Flash version of 8 Ball Pool. The site seems to have changed a lot. Did their library just disappear? I remember first time visiting the site about 20 years ago. Far cry from today.