Moonchild, any news? I presume not.
I remembered this thread today when this cancer service went down and half the websites I regularly use stopped loading.
Fuck cloud stuff.
CloudFlare discussion thread
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Moonchild
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Re: CloudFlare discussion thread
Nothing other than my contact asking about status update for Pale Moon and their allowances for it, apparently missing before that we're passing the turnstile test page normally now (where those would not be implemented). So I expressed surprise and asked if there was anything I had misunderstood or that there was anything specific we would still be missing if the turnstile test page passed anyway, and haven't received an answer to that.
They were also asking to enable performance observers by default. I explained I'd rather not and that using a web dev API on production sites (especially those fronting thousands of other) is a bad idea because fingerprinting and privacy issues. No response to that either so I don't know what they will be doing about that. They were claiming they needed it to improve performance of thr captcha but depite the shared name, Performance Observers don't actually improve performance or do anything for it -- they allow accurate timed measurements of web requests or callbacks based on navigation requests (which I'd still want to keep disabled regardless) but don't do anything to improve performance on either client or server side.
I don't have much otherwise to mention. A few open questions without answer and otherwise CF seems to work as it should if their infra isn't borking.
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Night Wing
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Re: CloudFlare discussion thread
There is an article today (11-18-2025) stating Cloudlfare had a problem and took down a large part of the internet with lots of business companies affected. It has since recovered.
https://www.techradar.com/pro/live/a-cl ... e-internet
There is an old adage, "Never put all of your eggs in one basket".
https://www.techradar.com/pro/live/a-cl ... e-internet
There is an old adage, "Never put all of your eggs in one basket".
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Michaell
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Re: CloudFlare discussion thread
I had a couple of sites blocked earlier this morning (Cloudflare in Atlanta was down but site host was up). Neither of these sites should even need special protection - just genealogy info). Tried again just now and one went through. The other one demanded I unblock challenges.cloudlflare.com. After watching it loop a few times, I did unblock scripts for that subdomain in ematrix. It crashed Windows, no chance to save anything. I won't be unblocking challenges anymore in PM.
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Gemmaugr
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Re: CloudFlare discussion thread
I unblock challenges in eMatrix all the time in PM, and have never had this happen. It's more likely some hardware fault on your setup that's the cause. What does the OS crash log say?Michaell wrote: ↑2025-11-18, 16:15I had a couple of sites blocked earlier this morning (Cloudflare in Atlanta was down but site host was up). Neither of these sites should even need special protection - just genealogy info). Tried again just now and one went through. The other one demanded I unblock challenges.cloudlflare.com. After watching it loop a few times, I did unblock scripts for that subdomain in ematrix. It crashed Windows, no chance to save anything. I won't be unblocking challenges anymore in PM.
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Moonchild
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Re: CloudFlare discussion thread
The "unblock challenges.Cloudflare.Com" was a red herring. I got it too but it's a default pass in my adblocker so it wasn't the issue. Instead, it was caused by cloudflare's challenges server throwing an error 500 (server error). So just mor cf infra being down
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"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite