CloudFlare discussion thread

[RealityRipple]

No change. Maybe some day I'll figure out why fonts are different.

[MasterSlenderTR]

I wanted to report that I can't login this website https://obs.ankara.edu.tr/account/login?returnurl=/ because of CloudFlare's captcha block.

[Sessh]

Worked for me first try.

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[Pelican]

those changes as a whole in my dev build now pass the CloudFlare challenge

Have you tried without PaleMoon in the user-agent?

[Moonchild]

those changes as a whole in my dev build now pass the CloudFlare challenge

Have you tried without PaleMoon in the user-agent?

That's irrelevant because CF has clearly stated the test page does not include specific exclusions for Pale Moon like in production.

[Gemmaugr]

So, how is the CF dev community setup going? If I remember correctly it should have been formed in June now (or was it July)?

Not that I'm having any CF problems at this time. Just for future possible issues that may (likely) crop up.

[Moonchild]

it's disappointing and seems to so far be without any feedback from CF's side. I'm taking it so far as just a way to quickly report issues but I'm not even sure if it gets any eyeballs on it.

[Gemmaugr]

it's disappointing and seems to so far be without any feedback from CF's side. I'm taking it so far as just a way to quickly report issues but I'm not even sure if it gets any eyeballs on it.

Ah, that's a shame. But it is set up at least. Though It sure sounds like being back at square one. I'm really really hoping it's just early days. Thanks for the update.

[Sessh]

Ah.. I was kinda afraid it would fizzle out, but hopefully this doesn't truly lead back to square one again.

[UCyborg]

All these stupid checks are really getting on my nerves now. I already don't use the internet much and even the little that I do, I'm constantly bombarded by those checks...

[frostknight]

Either they are busy, or its a low priority or they no longer care. I am not sure which.

I am thinking its the 2nd option probably.

[Sessh]

I've been seeing more than usual as well. It is slightly grating.

[back2themoon]

Haven't had a single issue. Yes, some websites -not all- do loop more than usual -and definitively more than on other browsers- but they ultimately pass the check.

Haven't tested this much, but I am under the suspicion that if you switch to another tab while the check is on, it might stop and fail.

[Mæstro]

For most websites behind Cloudflare, as I do not wish to enable cookies or scripting, I access an Internet Archive mirror of the page instead. My traffic is worthless to the site anyway, for I block adverts, but if the webmaster wishes to turn users away like this, I will not stop him.

[Sessh]

The CF checks usually work fine, I just meant I'm seeing a lot more sites give me CF prompts than before. Maybe it's just unlucky. lol The prompts generally work fine.

[Moonchild]

I just meant I'm seeing a lot more sites give me CF prompts than before.

It's because more and more internet traffic is bot traffic now. Why? because AI AI AI AI. everyone is tripping over themselves to scrape the same data from websites to train their own models so they can sell access to it.

[back2themoon]

Forgot to mention something unusual about gitlab.com, apart from looping a lot. Not sure if it is related.

No amount of cookie/history/cache/"Forget About This Site" etc. cleaning will log me out. The website will still remember my credentials, and I think Cloudflare is somehow related. Perhaps an IP thing.

The only way to log out, is to manually click on "Sign out" in which case, I will get the CF checks again. It's the only occasion I am seeing Cloudflare checks during signing out as well.

[Sessh]

I just meant I'm seeing a lot more sites give me CF prompts than before.

It's because more and more internet traffic is bot traffic now. Why? because AI AI AI AI. everyone is tripping over themselves to scrape the same data from websites to train their own models so they can sell access to it.

Off-topic:
It's almost like we should have planned this out better instead of just letting this out into the wild with no guardrails or anything. AI is great as an assistant and learning tool with things like foreign language learning, but is also being abused in many other ways. It doesn't seem like this will end well.

At the very least, I hope CF and Pale Moon can at least get along now in the future. Kinda bummed that all that talk about that Browser Assistance Program was just that, but also.. I mean I'm not that surprised. Things still seem better (dare I say) than they were before.

[Michaell]

Things still seem better (dare I say) than they were before.

It has been better, as in less frequent blocking on the one site I've had the most trouble with. But didn't the CF guy say that they would not continue allowing an exception for PM. I recall something about maybe changing that in July when PM 33.8 is out.

[Sessh]

Yeah, but I think Moonchild implemented the things into Pale Moon that were required in order to pass the CF checks now.