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not compatable websites

Unread post by faithbuilders » 2025-02-09, 23:07

Not sure if this is the right place to put this; but I need to say, PM is not as good as it once was... I am getting more and more websites that are saying it not compatible with my browser. And more and more I need to open the web site in a different browser just so that everything works like it should.

Even a mostly unknown browser like Yandex works better, and is more compatible than PM!

Sorry for the complaint, I hope this is something that can get resolved soon! I really don't want to change browsers, it is to much work, I don't have the time; plus there are features I do like. But I was looking into going back to FF, I hope I will not have to tho.

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Re: not compatable websites

Unread post by moonbat » 2025-02-09, 23:45

Generic complaints like this about what's bleedingly obvious in a Chrome dominated world are completely useless. Lots of people report broken compatibility with specific sites on the web compatibility board and get them resolved, and there are already reported fixes for popular sites if you search first before rushing to complain. Otherwise there's always the rest of the normie browsers if you lack the patience to properly report (including the very URL in question and the troubleshooting information that most newbies are apparently blind, deaf and dumb when it comes to providing :coffee:)
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Re: not compatable websites

Unread post by BenFenner » 2025-02-10, 03:04

Steps unclear. Unable to reproduce.

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Re: not compatable websites

Unread post by Gemmaugr » 2025-02-10, 07:23

google has near total monopoly/monoculture control over the internet sadly. They build sites with Node.JS & Angular. The populate them with First and Third Party scripts like googletagmanager, gfont, gstatic, googleanalytics, etc. The sites are behind google affiliates like Cloudflare, who is blocking non(chromium)-mainstream browsers. Browser like Yandex, which is indeed just another google chromium rebuild. As is Opera, Vivaldi, Edge, Arc, Samsung, SRWare, and many others. The browsers are used to visit google sites like Youtube, Gmail, google maps, google docs, VirusTotal, google search. On google pixel smartphones using google Android OS with google chromium/webview browser, and google electron apps or google CEF programs on desktop OS's.

The way to get it to change isn't by giving up and giving in.

It's by voting with your views and wallets, using alternative sites, and highlighting this very same unfair injustice.

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Re: not compatable websites

Unread post by andyprough » 2025-02-10, 20:41

Gemmaugr wrote:
2025-02-10, 07:23
The sites are behind google affiliates like Cloudflare, who is blocking non(chromium)-mainstream browsers. Browser like Yandex, which is indeed just another google chromium rebuild. As is Opera, Vivaldi, Edge, Arc, Samsung, SRWare, and many others. The browsers are used to visit google sites like Youtube, Gmail, google maps, google docs, VirusTotal, google search.

... The way to get it to change isn't by giving up and giving in.

It's by voting with your views and wallets, using alternative sites, and highlighting this very same unfair injustice.
This is why Pale Moon is actually getting better and better for me - I never used Facebook or Instagram or TikTok or whatnot, and I moved off of all Google platforms after the Edward Snowden mass surveillance & backdoor revelations over 12 years ago. I've never done online gaming or twitch or discord, and if I watch videos in a browser it's just on odysee or rumble which both work great with Pale Moon.

So everything's been working good for me, gets better with each new Pale Moon release. Even this recent Cloudflare outage only affected me because I wanted to download one GNU/Linux ISO from Sourceforge, but even if Sourceforge hadn't immediately fixed it I would have just grabbed the torrent file instead if I had really needed it.

For people like me that use Pale Moon as a privacy browser because it's the only modern browser with no reliance on anything from Google, this may actually be the best of times.

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Re: not compatable websites

Unread post by Lucio Chiappetti » 2025-02-10, 22:12

faithbuilders wrote:
2025-02-09, 23:07
I need to say, PM is not as good as it once was... I am getting more and more websites that are saying it not compatible with my browser.
It is not PM! Do not blame PM! Never! It is the web which is not as good as it once was !
andyprough wrote:
2025-02-10, 20:41
I never used Facebook or Instagram or TikTok or whatnot, and I moved off of all Google platforms ... I've never done online gaming or twitch or discord, and ...
I would agree with most of the "never's", were it not that: (a) my institution uses google meet and google drive (not so important, I could use Chrome with the institutional account, render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's); (b) occasionally other institutions/conferences use zoom or discord (last time I had to use discord several years ago it worked in PM, otherwise see (a)); (c) some sites like my national railways, my electricity and gas provider, some theatres for online ticketing sometimes fail with PM ... this is more annoying, as I am not familiar about how to privacy-harden Chrome or which other browser to use.

BTW, if the site just say they are not compatible with a popup, frame or div with a script, they can be removed with an ad-blocker. It is when the site functionality is not actually working in PM which is annoying.
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