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[andyprough]

could you please point me to one of them which will continue support for Firefox ESR on Win7 after Firefox will end the 115- cycle?[/offtopic]

r3dfox is the project you are looking for: https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox

The r3dfox maintainer apparently doesn't know how to code, use with caution:

I don't really know how to code, I can kinda infer what the code does by analyzing it

[gepus]

r3dfox is the project you are looking for

Not really.
I already inspected that address and its content.
Anyway, thanks for the well intended suggestion.

[andyprough]

Not really.
I already inspected that address and its content.
Anyway, thanks for the well intended suggestion.

Everything I found in my limited searching either points to r3dfox or to Pale Moon. Might not know for sure until Firefox 115 hits end of life and see what the different forks try to do. Mercury browser is one to keep an eye on.

Also, I've seen people use ancient versions of IceCat for years at a time with no ill effects, since IceCat is already so locked down that exploits would be hard pressed to get past its defenses. Might be a good idea to eventually keep the final IceCat 115 version around: https://icecatbrowser.org/index.html

[gepus]

Off-topic:
@andyprough

I know IceCat pretty well since I used it myself as secondary browser till Windows support was dropped. Now they offer binaries for Win again.
It was (probably still is) IMHO the only fork worth to recommend. Since it is a GNU project chances for a freezing hell are more likely than a GNU project supporting an obsolete Windows-OS after Mozilla ends its own support.
As for keeping IceCat 115 because it is more secure than FirefoxESR is IMO a myth. The only differences between them are some bundled extensions, some changed internal prefs and telemetry removed. Otherwise it is the same code. Besides, after some time (1-2 years) it won't be even useful as secondary browser.

[andyprough]

I know IceCat pretty well since I used it myself as secondary browser till Windows support was dropped. Now they offer binaries for Win again.
It was (probably still is) IMHO the only fork worth to recommend. Since it is a GNU project chances for a freezing hell are more likely than a GNU project supporting an obsolete Windows-OS after Mozilla ends its own support.
As for keeping IceCat 115 because it is more secure than FirefoxESR is IMO a myth. The only differences between them are some bundled extensions, some changed internal prefs and telemetry removed. Otherwise it is the same code. Besides, after some time (1-2 years) it won't be even useful as secondary browser.

OK I see, you have more experience with IceCat than I do. I use a browser by one of the IceCat devs, Ruben Rodriguez, who makes a fork of the non-ESR Firefox called Abrowser, but it's only for Debian-based systems, nothing for Windows. Like you say, he's not going to lift a finger for an old version of Windows.

Someone should probably be talking to the devs for the Mercury and Waterfox browsers (and Floorp if anyone speaks Japanese), and lobbying them hard to keep supporting Win7 past Firefox-ESR 115's EOL. That Waterfox dev has supported older technologies in the past when Mozilla moved on, maybe he'd see Win7 as a big opportunity to gain some browser market share. Someone should be working on that kind of stuff now, there will be a small fortune to be made when Win10 reaches EOL and its hundreds of millions of users are left in the lurch.

[frostknight]

Actually, it wasn't. Mozilla was very much against EME when it was first proposed. But it does look like the current Mozilla has eroded to the point where they are peddling Google stuff just as hard as Chrome is, without reserve.

I meant the current mozilla actually. I wasn't aware they fought against it when it was first proposed.

Well, it depends. If there are enough people on Win 7-8.1 who would like a browser getting continued security updates then I can extend the life support of ESR-115 for them with little effort.

I am just saying, you do enough for the community as it is and I thank you for it.

Off-topic:
Especially if I sometimes am too fanatical about linux and stuff and you try to let it go.

PS, I still have stuff against mainstream linux.

Not all of them, of course though.

[frostknight]

OK I see, you have more experience with IceCat than I do. I use a browser by one of the IceCat devs, Ruben Rodriguez, who makes a fork of the non-ESR Firefox called Abrowser, but it's only for Debian-based systems, nothing for Windows. Like you say, he's not going to lift a finger for an old version of Windows.

I think he should just be doing an ESR based one. That would save him so much time rather than maintain two separate firefox esr forks.


Betterfox is also an idea though if desired. its like arkenfox, but more updated.

PS, I am talking about Ruben not Moonchild in this case.

[frostknight]

Off-topic:
Many people are well educated not to speak with a full mouth, but they have no qualms about doing so with an empty head.

Was not my intention to be a broken record, my bad