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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by Ron_S » 2024-10-23, 21:20

I like the idea. A decent/trustworthy 'cutback' version of FF really appeals to me as I don't have a complete handle of all the nuts and bolts between privacy and security and I appreciate that I can mostly leave it in the hands of PM's standard config. If I could use an alternate browser when needed and can also leave it mostly 'as is' and not be a victim of the 'internets evils' then I can't see much bad about it.

I guess the only negative could be focus taken away from PM, but I guess Moonchild doesn't see this as an issue otherwise he wouldn't have made the suggestion.

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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by frostknight » 2024-10-25, 13:20

Moonchild wrote:
2024-09-25, 09:55
Maybe I should make a Firefox rebuild with all this crap removed.
Librewolf and mullvad fit that bill i think.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by frostknight » 2024-10-25, 13:23

Moonchild wrote:
2024-09-25, 13:29
Oh make no mistake, it would not be extensive work. it would just be a rebranded rebuild with crap yanked out that inevitably relies on "cloud" services (because Google). I think it wouldn't be all that involved at this point, just needs combing through prefs and build config to flip off the necessary things.
If that's the case, mercury is another good one. Mullvad is like librewolf but more privacy protecting.

betterfox + firefox is a good idea too though.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by frostknight » 2024-10-25, 13:25

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2024-09-26, 13:34
I will agree the website is..........not the best looking. But the Mercury browser is not so bad if one wants to play around with it......which is right up my alley.
A lot of modern websites look ugly today.

Eye candy, shiny bright colors = :sick:

Seriously... people overdo their UI or no reason.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-10-25, 16:07

don't forget 300% sized fonts everywhere.
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Unread post by Night Wing » 2024-10-25, 16:08

frostknight wrote:
2024-10-25, 13:23
If that's the case, mercury is another good one.
There is only one problem with the Mercury browser and that is the update schedule.

The present version for Mercury is 129.0.2 and that was released on Sept 17th. But the previous version was 123.0.1 which was released on Mar 5th. That is a good six months stretch of time. I think Alex updates Mercury when he has "time" for it.

You can see the updates for Mercury at the link below.

https://github.com/Alex313031/Mercury/releases
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Unread post by vannilla » 2024-10-25, 19:10

Moonchild wrote:
2024-10-25, 16:07
don't forget 300% sized fonts everywhere.
I have to be contrarian here, bigger fonts means I can keep the PC screen far away from my face and still being able to read the page without having to zoom (a feature that breaks sites anyway, since developers do everything pixel-perfect). :twisted:

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Unread post by frostknight » 2024-10-27, 13:35

Night Wing wrote:
2024-10-25, 16:08
There is only one problem with the Mercury browser and that is the update schedule.
If that's the case, betterfox user.js

https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox

That is your only other option if librewolf and mullvad aren't good enough.
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Unread post by Night Wing » 2024-10-27, 14:21

frostknight wrote:
2024-10-27, 13:35
Night Wing wrote:
2024-10-25, 16:08
There is only one problem with the Mercury browser and that is the update schedule.
If that's the case, betterfox user.js

https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox

That is your only other option if librewolf and mullvad aren't good enough.
There are other options.

I prefer Waterfox as my "primary" backup browser to Pale Moon with Firefox as the browser of last resort (choice) if Pale Moon and Waterfox run into any problems.

https://www.waterfox.net/

And Firefox comes with and is the default browser in the linux distros of Mint, MX Linux and Debian. Browser wise, I do not need any more than these three options at this time.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by BenFenner » 2024-10-27, 17:06

Moonchild wrote:
2024-09-25, 15:26
Checking https://librewolf.net/docs/features/ there are a ton of "features" that literally make the UX terrible.
Interesting. I'm giving LibreWolf a look for the first time just now because of your post. The feature list looks to be exactly how I configure Pale Moon. If it has WebRTC then it might be my ideal Pale Moon sidekick (instead of Firefox) for work. And I could finally have a sidekick browser on my most hardened/important machine.

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Unread post by frostknight » 2024-10-28, 23:44

Night Wing wrote:
2024-10-27, 14:21
There are other options.

I prefer Waterfox as my "primary" backup browser to Pale Moon with Firefox as the browser of last resort (choice) if Pale Moon and Waterfox run into any problems.
oh right, I forgot about waterfox. My bad, lol.
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Unread post by Night Wing » 2024-10-28, 23:59

frostknight wrote:
2024-10-28, 23:44
oh right, I forgot about waterfox. My bad, lol.
And the Mercury browser is also an option depending on if one likes the update schedule.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by suzyne » 2024-10-29, 00:37

So far, no mention of Zen in this thread? It claims:
Experience tranquillity while browsing the web without people tracking you! Zen is a privacy-focused browser that blocks trackers, ads, and other unwanted content while offering the best browsing experience!
I haven't tried it because Firefox related browsers are not my thing (except Pale Moon, of course!), but I am aware that it has generated quite a bit of hype over on reddit.
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Unread post by Night Wing » 2024-10-29, 02:30

I viewed a few YouTube videos of the Zen browser and from what I saw of it, regardless of the glowing reviews from the people who reviewed it and who made the videos, the browser did not appeal to me interest wise.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by UCyborg » 2024-10-30, 10:17

Floorp doesn't remove Mozilla telemetry from what I've seen, their site going on about privacy seems misleading.

Can't try it on home desktop because it wants SSE4.1, can't build it from source either because it wants 100 gigabytes of RAM. OK, not literally, but Rust compiler wants at least 12 GB.

Is there a web browser out there that doesn't suck?

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Unread post by vannilla » 2024-10-30, 13:01

UCyborg wrote:
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Is there a web browser out there that doesn't suck?
http://www.palemoon.org/ ;)

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Unread post by frostknight » 2024-11-02, 17:21

vannilla wrote:
2024-10-30, 13:01
http://www.palemoon.org/ ;)
That's about the size of it...
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers

Unread post by Bilbo47 » 2024-11-16, 23:51

Mullvad is no good anymore because it has dropped compatibility with Windows before 10.

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Unread post by frostknight » 2024-11-17, 17:58

Bilbo47 wrote:
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Mullvad is no good anymore because it has dropped compatibility with Windows before 10.
There's really no point trying to port privacy friendly web browsers to windows 10 and newer.

Privacy is completely dead in windows 10 and newer.

Windows 7 and windows 8.1 had similar problems, but they didn't force updates down peoples' throats.
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Unread post by suzyne » 2024-11-17, 21:26

frostknight wrote:
2024-11-17, 17:58
There's really no point trying to port privacy friendly web browsers to windows 10 and newer.
That makes little sense to me.

I don't understand a mindset that proclaims, if I can't limit Microsoft from invading my privacy, then I just give up and won't even try to restrict how much data every other website collects.

Such thinking comes across as totally defeatist, and irrationally surrendering to what the data collection companies want.
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