"Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
I like the idea. A decent/trustworthy 'cutback' version of FF really appeals to me as I don't have a complete handle of all the nuts and bolts between privacy and security and I appreciate that I can mostly leave it in the hands of PM's standard config. If I could use an alternate browser when needed and can also leave it mostly 'as is' and not be a victim of the 'internets evils' then I can't see much bad about it.
I guess the only negative could be focus taken away from PM, but I guess Moonchild doesn't see this as an issue otherwise he wouldn't have made the suggestion.
I guess the only negative could be focus taken away from PM, but I guess Moonchild doesn't see this as an issue otherwise he wouldn't have made the suggestion.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
Librewolf and mullvad fit that bill i think.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
If that's the case, mercury is another good one. Mullvad is like librewolf but more privacy protecting.Moonchild wrote: ↑2024-09-25, 13:29Oh make no mistake, it would not be extensive work. it would just be a rebranded rebuild with crap yanked out that inevitably relies on "cloud" services (because Google). I think it wouldn't be all that involved at this point, just needs combing through prefs and build config to flip off the necessary things.
betterfox + firefox is a good idea too though.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
A lot of modern websites look ugly today.Night Wing wrote: ↑2024-09-26, 13:34I will agree the website is..........not the best looking. But the Mercury browser is not so bad if one wants to play around with it......which is right up my alley.
Eye candy, shiny bright colors =
Seriously... people overdo their UI or no reason.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
don't forget 300% sized fonts everywhere.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
There is only one problem with the Mercury browser and that is the update schedule.
The present version for Mercury is 129.0.2 and that was released on Sept 17th. But the previous version was 123.0.1 which was released on Mar 5th. That is a good six months stretch of time. I think Alex updates Mercury when he has "time" for it.
You can see the updates for Mercury at the link below.
https://github.com/Alex313031/Mercury/releases
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
I have to be contrarian here, bigger fonts means I can keep the PC screen far away from my face and still being able to read the page without having to zoom (a feature that breaks sites anyway, since developers do everything pixel-perfect).
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
If that's the case, betterfox user.jsNight Wing wrote: ↑2024-10-25, 16:08There is only one problem with the Mercury browser and that is the update schedule.
https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox
That is your only other option if librewolf and mullvad aren't good enough.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
There are other options.frostknight wrote: ↑2024-10-27, 13:35If that's the case, betterfox user.jsNight Wing wrote: ↑2024-10-25, 16:08There is only one problem with the Mercury browser and that is the update schedule.
https://github.com/yokoffing/BetterFox
That is your only other option if librewolf and mullvad aren't good enough.
I prefer Waterfox as my "primary" backup browser to Pale Moon with Firefox as the browser of last resort (choice) if Pale Moon and Waterfox run into any problems.
https://www.waterfox.net/
And Firefox comes with and is the default browser in the linux distros of Mint, MX Linux and Debian. Browser wise, I do not need any more than these three options at this time.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
Interesting. I'm giving LibreWolf a look for the first time just now because of your post. The feature list looks to be exactly how I configure Pale Moon. If it has WebRTC then it might be my ideal Pale Moon sidekick (instead of Firefox) for work. And I could finally have a sidekick browser on my most hardened/important machine.Moonchild wrote: ↑2024-09-25, 15:26Checking https://librewolf.net/docs/features/ there are a ton of "features" that literally make the UX terrible.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
oh right, I forgot about waterfox. My bad, lol.Night Wing wrote: ↑2024-10-27, 14:21There are other options.
I prefer Waterfox as my "primary" backup browser to Pale Moon with Firefox as the browser of last resort (choice) if Pale Moon and Waterfox run into any problems.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
And the Mercury browser is also an option depending on if one likes the update schedule.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
So far, no mention of Zen in this thread? It claims:
I haven't tried it because Firefox related browsers are not my thing (except Pale Moon, of course!), but I am aware that it has generated quite a bit of hype over on reddit.Experience tranquillity while browsing the web without people tracking you! Zen is a privacy-focused browser that blocks trackers, ads, and other unwanted content while offering the best browsing experience!
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
I viewed a few YouTube videos of the Zen browser and from what I saw of it, regardless of the glowing reviews from the people who reviewed it and who made the videos, the browser did not appeal to me interest wise.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
Floorp doesn't remove Mozilla telemetry from what I've seen, their site going on about privacy seems misleading.
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Is there a web browser out there that doesn't suck?
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
That's about the size of it...
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
Mullvad is no good anymore because it has dropped compatibility with Windows before 10.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
There's really no point trying to port privacy friendly web browsers to windows 10 and newer.
Privacy is completely dead in windows 10 and newer.
Windows 7 and windows 8.1 had similar problems, but they didn't force updates down peoples' throats.
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Re: "Privacy Preserving" feature that sends even more data to advertisers
That makes little sense to me.frostknight wrote: ↑2024-11-17, 17:58There's really no point trying to port privacy friendly web browsers to windows 10 and newer.
I don't understand a mindset that proclaims, if I can't limit Microsoft from invading my privacy, then I just give up and won't even try to restrict how much data every other website collects.
Such thinking comes across as totally defeatist, and irrationally surrendering to what the data collection companies want.
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