Federal Court Rules Against Google in Landmark Antitrust Case

[THX-1139]

https://www.theepochtimes.com/business/ ... paign=copy

[Moonchild]

Okay, 2 remarks:

1. Please don't post links without a description. see forum rules
2. It's rather pointless to post links to articles behind a paywall.

[suzyne]

It's rather pointless to post links to articles behind a paywall.

Agree about this, but as a tip, the Reader View add-on for Pale Moon is often (and in this case) effective at showing most of the text from such an article.

[ron_1]

Here's the Reuters article on it:

https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-rules-google-broke-antitrust-law-search-case-2024-08-05/

[athenian200]

I was just reading the AP article about the same thing. I was considering posting this thread myself, but it looks like I was beaten to it.

So basically what happened is that the judge ruled that Google is giving itself an unfair advantage in search by paying so much money to be the default search engine on everything from Mozilla Firefox to the iPhone. Google argued that people can change defaults, but the data was clear that people tend to go with the default on their platform, whatever it is. Ironically, the evidence used that this has a big impact was that 80% of Microsoft Edge users have Bing as their default search engine, even though they could switch it to Google in theory.

What the DOJ's data found was that people are more likely to stick with whatever the default search engine is on a given browser or smartphone, and that the option to change search engines is rarely used. That lines up with data that I found a while back showing that people were angry about Edge and wanting to download Chrome instead primarily because they didn't like the Bing search engine and wanted to use Google, showing that most people conflate the browser with its default search engine nowadays and just don't understand the difference between Chrome and the Google search engine.

https://apnews.com/article/google-antit ... a30abaefd8

[THX-1139]

Okay, 2 remarks:

1. Please don't post links without a description. see forum rules
2. It's rather pointless to post links to articles behind a paywall.

I thought the Title was description enough, but okay, next time I'll post a quote or something about it.
And I am getting No paywall (and I am not a payee) IDK why is no paywall for me

[gepus]

And I am getting No paywall (and I am not a payee) IDK why is no paywall for me

With scripting disabled you don't see any paywall. So you have most probably scripting disabled.

However, even with scripting enabled one can read the article:

[Moonchild]

However, even with scripting enabled one can read the article:

That only seems to work once because of claimed "gifted free access". It's still a paywall even if they allow you a "demo" article (with a ton of ads, one per 2-3 sentences). I mean really this site is idiocracy level of ads if you use the "gifted free" access.

[RealityRipple]

News agencies complain that nobody reads news on their websites. Thirty years of web design and they still don't understand the problem is their websites are atrocious.

[SmileyFaze]

News agencies complain that nobody reads news on their websites. Thirty years of web design and they still don't understand the problem is their websites are atrocious.

Try Using this Archive that bypasses similar Paywalls.....

Federal Court Rules Against Google in Landmark Antitrust Case


PS.......In the future if you're ever stuck behind a similar paywall try this extension/add-on Archive.is Now
listed in the Classic Add-ons Archive .

I've found it extremely helpful. I've been using it for years.



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[moonbat]

In the future if you're ever stuck behind a similar paywall try this extension/add-on Archive.is Now
listed in the Classic Add-ons Archive .

Or use my extension RecordRewind,in my signature instead of an unmaintained old one.

[SmileyFaze]

In the future if you're ever stuck behind a similar paywall try this extension/add-on Archive.is Now
listed in the Classic Add-ons Archive .

Or use my extension RecordRewind,in my signature instead of an unmaintained old one.

Does RecordRewind also work with Basilisk too like Archive.is Now does?

It looks interesting MB, so if it does then I'll have to give it a test drive. If it doesn't that's a shame.....why not....I took a peek and it looks like RecordRewind hasn't been updated since 2022? Is that so?

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[moonbat]

Does RecordRewind also work with Basilisk too like Archive.is Now does?

Not anymore, I stopped using Basilisk during the interim before the current maintainer took it up.

looks like RecordRewind hasn't been updated since 2022?

Updated for what? This isn't GooZilla browser land where they keep breaking features every fortnight forcing extension developers to run on a hamster wheel. Pale Moon has a very stable platform for extensions and the only updates would be new features and bugfixes, which have all been completed.

[SmileyFaze]

Does RecordRewind also work with Basilisk too like Archive.is Now does?

Not anymore, I stopped using Basilisk during the interim before the current maintainer took it up.

looks like RecordRewind hasn't been updated since 2022?

Updated for what? This isn't GooZilla browser land where they keep breaking features every fortnight forcing extension developers to run on a hamster wheel. Pale Moon has a very stable platform for extensions and the only updates would be new features and bugfixes, which have all been completed.

Sorry, I use both browsers and I'm far from alone in that. To me if an extension works excellently with both Basilisk & PM that make my choice very easy......thank you for the offer of an alternative, but for now I'll be sticking with Archive.is Now....its so easy install and use, and it meets with all my archival needs for both Basilisk & PaleMoon. Thanks again MB.

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[Lexx Diamond]

And I am getting No paywall (and I am not a payee) IDK why is no paywall for me

With scripting disabled you don't see any paywall. So you have most probably scripting disabled.

However, even with scripting enabled one can read the article:

I'm running NoScript and I saw no indication of a paywall. This is what I see when I click the link.

[THX-1139]

And I am getting No paywall (and I am not a payee) IDK why is no paywall for me

With scripting disabled you don't see any paywall. So you have most probably scripting disabled.

However, even with scripting enabled one can read the article:

I'm running NoScript and I saw no indication of a paywall. This is what I see when I click the link.

I'm getting that same basic look; No paywall and no ads, however I am not using noscript (haven't you heard of the issues with NS and PM?)
I'm using UBO and eMatrix, they both work great along side of each other, better than 'individually' and alone.
It's gotten to the point (for me) of not needing or using any other browser than Pale Moon- I think since the last update (33.2.0) I have not used Vivaldi once
I'll probably wait a bit to update it's working so good.

[Lexx Diamond]

And I am getting No paywall (and I am not a payee) IDK why is no paywall for me

With scripting disabled you don't see any paywall. So you have most probably scripting disabled.

However, even with scripting enabled one can read the article:

I'm running NoScript and I saw no indication of a paywall. This is what I see when I click the link.

I'm getting that same basic look; No paywall and no ads, however I am not using noscript (haven't you heard of the issues with NS and PM?)
I'm using UBO and eMatrix, they both work great along side of each other, better than 'individually' and alone.
It's gotten to the point (for me) of not needing or using any other browser than Pale Moon- I think since the last update (33.2.0) I have not used Vivaldi once
I'll probably wait a bit to update it's working so good.

While I have read of issues with NoScript, I have not experienced any issue with the extension. I have been using the NS extension since 2006 and I love it. eMatrix just didn't cut it for me. As for the matter addressed in the original post. Google has been bogarting the internet for it's own financial gains with impunity for years months and days. They must be reigned in.

[BenFenner]

That lines up with data that I found a while back showing that people were angry about Edge and wanting to download Chrome instead primarily because they didn't like the Bing search engine and wanted to use Google, showing that most people conflate the browser with its default search engine nowadays and just don't understand the difference between Chrome and the Google search engine.

I don't why I never put these two things together.