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The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by f-117 » 2024-04-03, 14:02

It seems that Tobin has stopped development of Interlink....

https://binaryoutcast.com/ (Scroll down)
I have decided not to continue or reboot Interlink in any form. There are many reasons for this, one being: There really isn't anything I can offer at this point to enhance the traditional e-mail client experience anymore than I have as well as the challenges of running an isolated project with diminishing capabilities due to outside factors. The second major one is that the e-mail client was built and designed, albeit with my vision but tailored for, Pale Moon users and consumers of the Unified XUL Platform. The biggest deficiency in the design and administration of the Meta-project is that if you are outside the "unity" it feels much more like being downstream from Mozilla in 2016 in all the worst ways and yes that can be mostly traced back to me. Mostly. Those users are or could be served by another project firmly aligned to what they are after, within the unity.

Does that mean the code is dead? Nah, it is only mostly dead. I do intend, when I have time and Pale Moon's git forge is actually working properly and not rejecting every attempt to clone or download code likely due to a configuration error in their non-cloudflare replacement defenses. And yes that is a bug report, hush. Anyway, as soon as I can GET UXP's code reliably again I will fix up the comm-uxp code for others to continue in part or in full. Borealis included.

For those who were Interlink users regardless of the complimentary aspects of unified project goals with Pale Moon or other UXP projects I know this is a disappointment and it feels like I strung you guys along and unintentionally, yeah I kinda did and I am sorry for that. If you want my recommendations on a replacement client they are: Thunderbird, Betterbird, and Athenian200's Epyrus client. For Thunderbird and Betterbird Profile Migration, follow the ESR releases one after another. That has had reports of success. Epyrus should be as simple as clearing any incompatible add-ons and copying the profile over. Remembering to verify in Account Settings the absolute path for each has been updated.

You may now be asking, well what ARE you gonna be doing aside from having more than one website with or without content? GOOD QUESTION! Well, I have been immersing my self into the Linux. To the point of experimenting with Redhat technology in the form of anaconda kickstarts and on the flip side I have successfully completed, once, the Linux from Scratch book with a successful first boot. Making operating systems.. That's a step up.. HOWEVER, I am still stuck with the same problems I had in 2014, or rather the conclusion. Chrome won. Or did it? I am not convinced despite appearances otherwise. Now where can someone like my self with my experience have the technology to support taking a looksee if Chrome actually won the browser war? The Mozillasphere.

Mozilla? Yes Mozilla. This is after all their fault. If you ignore, Google, Microsoft, Adobe, W3C, Brave, Opera, your friend from 3rd grade (maybe). The point is, I have done a few months of research and study into Modern Mozilla. And there is potential there. The problem is, with work one can recapture the kinds of capabilites and features of a Mozilla platform with Mozilla as a Platform codebase BUT it won't be identical and may be conceptually tweaked for modern concerns. Creating challenges in traditional workflows and applications. But doesn't that just sound like fun to explore and even making some "impossible" accomplishments with? So that is what I am gonna do. How? More on that as I .. come up with it and makes sure it mostly works first. BTW, no I am not doing a Firefox fork.

So that is what BinOC is gonna be doing. Linux, Mozilla, and Web. It is gonna be a blast so stick around!

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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-04-03, 14:40

f-117 wrote:
2024-04-03, 14:02
BTW, no I am not doing a Firefox fork.
I will get a good chuckle if he forks GNU IceCat and call it FireCat. It could probably be pretty good, too.

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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by athenian200 » 2024-04-03, 15:00

Well, I guess that is an incentive to get to work improving Epyrus. Even Tobin recommended Interlink users move on...
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-04-03, 15:37

Of course he had to complain about the repo being temporarily problematic, which was in fact indirectly caused by his own hard requirement for Phoebus (that runs on the same physical server after his dramatic exit) hard-requiring running under apache. Completely unrelated to CloudFlare or the configuration, but rather linked to a server restart. It's actually a known issue with NGinX if the user it runs under changes after initial setup, since it uses filesystem space as temporary hand-off areas.
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by RoestVrijStaal » 2024-04-03, 20:31

All those stings below the belt. It's a pity that his attitude didn't change at all.

Well, for me he was always that specific kind of people to build their own TempleOS.

May his adventure for building his own OS or Linux distro goes well.

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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by back2themoon » 2024-04-11, 20:53

Well, I'm glad to see a fairly normal and meaningful post from Tobin. I really hope he is doing ok.

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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by frostknight » 2024-04-12, 17:01

back2themoon wrote:
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Well, I'm glad to see a fairly normal and meaningful post from Tobin. I really hope he is doing ok.
Ditto to all of this. Its good to hear he is more stable now. I hope he is okay as well.

I find it interesting he discontinued interlink and not borealis.

This surprised me as I thought it would be the other way around.
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by moonbat » 2024-04-13, 00:50

frostknight wrote:
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I find it interesting he discontinued interlink and not borealis.
The latter was never a released product, there are no binaries to download. He used to provide builds on request.
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by frostknight » 2024-04-16, 01:57

moonbat wrote:
2024-04-13, 00:50
frostknight wrote:
2024-04-12, 17:01
I find it interesting he discontinued interlink and not borealis.
The latter was never a released product, there are no binaries to download. He used to provide builds on request.
Ahh okay that explains it.

Well, he said that he was still going to make it though I thought according to the OP.
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by moonbat » 2024-04-16, 04:29

As I recall he was stuck on getting it to integrate with Windows for file associations, protocol handlers etc.
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-04-16, 09:13

moonbat wrote:
2024-04-16, 04:29
As I recall he was stuck on getting it to integrate with Windows for file associations, protocol handlers etc.
Really? Strange, that's pretty well-documented by Microsoft how to do.
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by ron_1 » 2024-04-16, 20:07

frostknight wrote:
2024-04-12, 17:01
I find it interesting he discontinued interlink and not borealis.
If Borealis is still in development, where is it mentioned? It isn't mentioned anywhere on his website that I can see.

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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by frostknight » 2024-04-18, 02:20

ron_1 wrote:
2024-04-16, 20:07
frostknight wrote:
2024-04-12, 17:01
I find it interesting he discontinued interlink and not borealis.
If Borealis is still in development, where is it mentioned? It isn't mentioned anywhere on his website that I can see.

Its possible I misunderstood and both are canned... idk.

EDIT:

Concerning Interlink Mail & News...

from here:

https://binaryoutcast.com/

Seems to say he still has interest, but not yet for the time being.

More or less, when he feels like he is ready to do so. So... yeah.
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-04-18, 07:38

frostknight wrote:
2024-04-18, 02:20
Seems to say he still has interest, but not yet for the time being.

More or less, when he feels like he is ready to do so. So... yeah.
So, in other words: "No, but I'll string you along on an empty promise as long as you'll let me"
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Re: The latest news on Interlink from Tobin....

Unread post by frostknight » 2024-04-19, 22:39

Moonchild wrote:
2024-04-18, 07:38
So, in other words: "No, but I'll string you along on an empty promise as long as you'll let me"
Imo, I think that he is mostly saying, maybe, but I don't have an answer. Which does go more in the direction you mentioned probably.

I think there is a 30% chance he will/wants to, but I dunno beyond that.
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