pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

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pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2022-06-09, 17:21

I've been wondering why I wasn't getting any Twitch mail notifications lately, and now I've found out.
When I manually tried to download mail in Interlink, I got this error:
"Sending of password for user xxxxxxx did not succeed. Mail server pop.gmail.com responded: Username and password not accepted."

I haven't changed Google password at all, and generally have absolutely no idea what the problem might be.

Has this happened to anyone else by chance, or does anyone know what the problem is?

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2022-06-09, 17:28

Change in Google's auth policy. You need a special "App password" for your POP3 client to log in.
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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2022-06-09, 17:30

Jesus fucking christ!!!
Why do I use Gmail at all...

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2022-06-09, 17:33

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2022-06-09, 17:30
Jesus fucking christ!!!
Why do I use Gmail at all...
I recommend canceling the Google account and get another service.
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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by RealityRipple » 2022-06-09, 17:35

Personal suggestion: Get another address and forward your gmail to that address.

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2022-06-09, 18:06

I have to keep google account for search settings and logging into certain websites, but since I have about three other emails I don't use, I can get rid of Gmail at least :)

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by billnotben » 2022-06-09, 19:12

It's simple enough to do. Add mobile number - enable two step verification - select app password - copy password and replace the one in your program. And things are back to working as usual.

I had to do it twenty six times in a couple of mail programs. The only drawback I found if you do five or six quickly google stops accepting your mobile number for a while.

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by Admin » 2022-06-09, 19:58

This shouldn't have come as a surprise. Google sent mails out to every user using "less secure app acces" that wasn't using an app password yet.

They require 2FA for your account before they deem your choice of "less secure" mail client an option. Whatever "less secure" means in their opinion.
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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2022-06-11, 06:34

I just don't understand what's so awesome about "app password" when I can create a strong password myself.
I've been ignoring and deleting all google mails for a good reason (so yes it's kind of my fault) - most of it makes no damn sense whatsoever.
If they won't let me use a mail client that works in such way that has been for 20+ years, fuck them.

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-06-11, 07:00

LuftWafflePilot wrote:
2022-06-11, 06:34
I just don't understand what's so awesome about "app password" when I can create a strong password myself.
The reason they don't want it used for mail (or any other very frequently used authentication) is because a Google account is more than just mail, and if it gets compromised, you're not just compromising mail, but also things with financial impact like the Play store and all purchases through it, and the Google wallet/Google Pay. Using an app password will not compromise the master account password if it becomes known to a malicious party.
I think it makes sense on that level; and I guess they may be required to enforce something like that having moved into being an e-money provider. What I don't agree with though is that they want to exchange it with OAuth2, because the inherent risk of an insecurely stored password in an application is still present and OAuth2 doesn't actually secure against what an app password does secure against (app passwords are strictly speaking more secure in that respect). Because normal best practices has all client mail transport TLS encrypted anyway, the only real risks are TLS man-in-the-middle or insecure storage on the local system and it being stolen. OAuth might protect against the former (not sure) but certainly not the latter. If best practices aren't used then there's marginal improvement by forcing TLS for auth even if the mail transport itself might potentially not be secure.
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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by LuftWafflePilot » 2022-06-12, 20:47

Ah ok, I didn't think about it from that perspective. It makes sense indeed.

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by gorodn » 2022-06-28, 13:57

Why not give Fastmail a go? It lives in Australia and explicitly states it does not own your email. You will have to part with some bikkies but. The good news about the cost is that you won't be a product!

In addition, it recognises POP3s as well as IMAP and some others. POP3s is the https of email :angel: I use Gammadyne Clyton as a front end, but you can always work from the web interface if that floats your boat.

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Re: pop3 with Gmail suddenly doesn't work

Unread post by Bilbo47 » 2022-07-03, 16:18

POP Peeper has new feature for this situation.

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