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"and site data"?

Unread postby Smokey20 » Sun, 18 Nov 2018, 09:15

What does "and site data" under Preferences/Privacy/History "allow sites to store cookies and site data" mean? Fx 52 ESR speaks only of cookies. Plus, I don't recall seeing "and site data" in Basilisk in the past.

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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby gepus » Sun, 18 Nov 2018, 14:30

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By deleting cookies will site data (indexedDB) also automatically get deleted?
I assume not but I might be wrong, hence my question.

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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby JustOff » Sun, 18 Nov 2018, 14:54

No, you need to use "Clear History" and select "Site Connectivity Data" to do so.
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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby Smokey20 » Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 10:32

JustOff wrote:No, you need to use "Clear History" and select "Site Connectivity Data" to do so.


""Site Connectivity Data" ? I don't have that on Basilisk 2018.11.07 64 bit version.

Plus, the preference in Moonchild's comment you linked to earlier is still in Basilisk. I want a way to deny all indexed database saved by websites on my browser...global denial not site by site where I don't even have "site Connectivity Data" setting to be able to delete the stored stuff later. Combining cookies and indexed database in Preferences I don't understand. I see that Mozilla has done this on some version of Fx later than Fx 52.9 ESR that I still use. I have left Fx except for Fx 52 ESR because Mozilla has become less and less interested in user privacy (among all the other stuff they have eliminated in their zeal to become a Chrome browser clone). I think indexed database saving on the browser should be by default denied for all sites and cookies by default denied at all sites and then there should be an exceptions list (like the one for cookies) for indexed database savings and the user could allow for a few sites there. This would provide privacy much better while still allowing for history to be saved and the avoidance of using private browser only.

There are some strange things going on with this latest version of Basilsk. I was deleting cookies (Cookie Controller seems to not be working correctly in this Basilisk version). I deleted cookies from a site that I had a tab open to and immediately that caused an ad to appear yet when I did the same thing, at the same site, with the same tab open on Fx 52.9 ESR, no ad appeared. I have the same version of ublock origin and and Privacy Badger on both browsers and both use Fx Tracking Protection with Strict Block List.

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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby JustOff » Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 12:11

Smokey20 wrote:""Site Connectivity Data" ? I don't have that on Basilisk 2018.11.07 64 bit version.

Sorry, I was wrong, the "Offline Website Data" option is responsible for that.
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Re: "and site data"?

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Unread postby JustOff » Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 12:36


... and break websites that need IndexedDB :coffee:
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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby billmcct » Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 13:22

I realize it will break sites, however it can be toggled.
@Smokey20 stated:
I think indexed database saving on the browser should be by default denied.
Just offering an option.
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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby Moonchild » Mon, 19 Nov 2018, 13:31

Just to clarify: it is no longer possible to disable IndexedDB overall in Pale Moon or Basilisk. This is why there is "and site data" to clarify cookie control includes website data like IndexedDB.
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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby Smokey20 » Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 08:48

billmcct wrote:I realize it will break sites, however it can be toggled.
@Smokey20 stated:
I think indexed database saving on the browser should be by default denied.
Just offering an option.


That extension doesn't work on Basilisk. But Cookie Controller does. It's missing the perm button though (not in customize) which makes it more irritating to use.

Actually, it looks like on Basilisk the perm button has gotten combined with the Toggle button. I just installed it on Fx 52.9 ESR and both buttons are there. I don't need it on Fx though since DOM storage is globally denied there as it still should be in Basilisk.

Not sure why anyone thinks webs sites will break with indexed data base denied. I can think of very few things that are more offensive in a browser than it allowing sites to store the very stuff a user NEVER wants stored. If this breaks a site then I would wish to never visit such a site. The only site I have seen that does get broken if I set Cookie Controller in Basilisk to deny dome Storage is Microsoft support. That's pathetic because sometimes I have to access that given that I have this horrific Windows 10. But I will just install a different browser that I use ONLY to access Microsoft support.
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Re: "and site data"?

Unread postby Smokey20 » Tue, 20 Nov 2018, 08:50

So, "dom.indexedDB.enabled;false" is what? It does nothing now but is still in about:config???


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