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A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Mon, 02 Jul 2018, 14:10
by zapper
Do you plan to put a stop to all the dialing back to home that Basilisk does with pings?

I used sudo tcpdump and for some reason it still shows a lot of dialing back.

On a less related note though, will you be supporting privacypossum.

It is supported currently by firefox-esr 52 and higher. As well as webext. Just wondering.

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Mon, 02 Jul 2018, 15:27
by Moonchild
De-Mozification is an ongoing process.
That being said, contacting servers for various services/updates/etc. is normal.

Can't help you with the extension. As has been said many times: it is the task of extensions to be compatible with the thing they extend, never the other way around. If it's a web extension then your mileage may vary - it may or may not work.

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Tue, 03 Jul 2018, 09:51
by Latitude
Including MOZ* variables (MOZ_Z_DEFLATEEND, MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH, etc.)?

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Tue, 03 Jul 2018, 12:32
by Moonchild
Latitude wrote:Including MOZ* variables (MOZ_Z_DEFLATEEND, MOZ_PLUGIN_PATH, etc.)?

Yes, MOZ_* -- if you want to help start deleting!

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Tue, 03 Jul 2018, 15:00
by Latitude
Moonchild wrote:Yes, MOZ_* -- if you want to help start deleting!


I mean renaming them to MCP_*.

(MCP = MoonChild Productions)

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Tue, 03 Jul 2018, 16:29
by SpockFan02
Latitude wrote:I mean renaming them to MCP_*.

(MCP = MoonChild Productions)
They've been using MC (e.g. MC_BASILISK, MC_PALEMOON). But I really don't think everything needs renaming... :roll:

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Tue, 03 Jul 2018, 16:59
by Moonchild
It's pointless to rename these things. They won't work any better with a different name, you know?

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Wed, 04 Jul 2018, 20:06
by zapper
Moonchild wrote:De-Mozification is an ongoing process.
That being said, contacting servers for various services/updates/etc. is normal.


Ah okay, I am sure you know this, but I meant the unneeded pinging. like dialing to amazon when I am not using amazon... etc...

Still, de-Mozification is good.


"Can't help you with the extension. As has been said many times: it is the task of extensions to be compatible with the thing they extend, never the other way around. If it's a web extension then your mileage may vary - it may or may not work."

Ah okay, so as long as it supports web extension at all, it is a problem. Even if it also works on legacy as well. Right? That is a shame, I guess I talk to my distro about this. heh.

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Wed, 04 Jul 2018, 20:47
by Nigaikaze
zapper wrote:I guess I talk to my distro about this.

If you want privacypossum to work in Basilisk, then the people you need to talk to are the privacypossum devs, not your disto devs.

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Wed, 04 Jul 2018, 23:38
by SpockFan02
Nigaikaze wrote:
zapper wrote:I guess I talk to my distro about this.

If you want privacypossum to work in Basilisk, then the people you need to talk to are the privacypossum devs, not your disto devs.
And/or implement more WebExtension APIs in Basilisk.

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Thu, 05 Jul 2018, 02:19
by zapper
SpockFan02 wrote:
Nigaikaze wrote:
zapper wrote:I guess I talk to my distro about this.

If you want privacypossum to work in Basilisk, then the people you need to talk to are the privacypossum devs, not your disto devs.
And/or implement more WebExtension APIs in Basilisk.


I have done both to be honest.

Minus the implement webextension apis in basilisk of course...

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Thu, 05 Jul 2018, 11:21
by Moonchild
We're unlikely to put much (if any) time into adding more WebExtension APIs in Basilisk. Our stance is that if you want to use true browser-extending application-specific features, then you should be using XUL/overlay extensions that have full access to browser APIs, and not WebExtensions that are primarily content/web service focused. Since the APIs are already there in our other extension technologies, there's little reason to do double work (and potentially open up security holes due to the way WebExtensions plug into the browser).

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Thu, 05 Jul 2018, 14:55
by zapper
Moonchild wrote:We're unlikely to put much (if any) time into adding more WebExtension APIs in Basilisk. Our stance is that if you want to use true browser-extending application-specific features, then you should be using XUL/overlay extensions that have full access to browser APIs, and not WebExtensions that are primarily content/web service focused. Since the APIs are already there in our other extension technologies, there's little reason to do double work (and potentially open up security holes due to the way WebExtensions plug into the browser).


Fair enough, I did contact the dev of privacy possum, we will see what happens. :)

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...  Topic is solved

Posted: Tue, 10 Jul 2018, 20:50
by zapper
zapper wrote:
Moonchild wrote:We're unlikely to put much (if any) time into adding more WebExtension APIs in Basilisk. Our stance is that if you want to use true browser-extending application-specific features, then you should be using XUL/overlay extensions that have full access to browser APIs, and not WebExtensions that are primarily content/web service focused. Since the APIs are already there in our other extension technologies, there's little reason to do double work (and potentially open up security holes due to the way WebExtensions plug into the browser).


Fair enough, I did contact the dev of privacy possum, we will see what happens. :)


Nevermind, I was wrong this was something my distro did. so yeah, forget it.

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 10:02
by fatboy
zapper wrote:Fair enough, I did contact the dev of privacy possum, we will see what happens. :)


Any news from Privacy Possum? Would love to see it on Pale Moon

Re: A question about basilisk, etc...

Posted: Tue, 18 Sep 2018, 18:11
by Fedor2
I have the patch for remove some most annoying leaking. I can share it on the next week, when i shall reach main work computer.