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Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Latitude » 2018-05-17, 13:57

If we could access Google Safe Browsing from Basilisk (Help -> Report deceptive site), does Basilisk use its database to protect its users from deceptive sites?

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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by adesh » 2018-05-17, 15:23

Basilisk does not come with Safe Browsing built-in.

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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2018-05-17, 15:26

Google SafeBrowsing requires a (Business, non-free) Google API key. It will not work without such a key.
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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Moonraker » 2018-05-17, 17:27

As far as i know palemoon does not use it so i see no reason to have it in basilisk but of course that decision is not mine to make,although ublock and other extensions do have filters etc plus there are countless online scanners out there too.
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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Latitude » 2018-05-23, 02:58

If Basilisk doesn't use Safe Browsing, so, what about.... the removal of that menu item?

It is useless to Basilisk, right?
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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by SpockFan02 » 2018-05-23, 06:56

SafeBrowsing is disabled for official Basilisk builds, but I think it could still be built. I don't see any SafeBrowsing-related menu items, but try flipping the pref browser.safebrowsing.UI.enabled.

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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Smokey20 » 2018-05-23, 07:45

I enabled that preference and SafeBrowsing is fully enabled now in Basilisk. With the preference set to false the test sites don't work but when I set it to "true", then test sites at https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/ho ... n-features
work. Tools/Preferences also now contains the choices for SafeBrowsing on the Security tab.

But if it requires a Google business API key to work then is it now working or not? Does it just appear to be working?

Will it obtain the current lists? There are "user set" preferences (I don't recall setting them) for the updates.

If SafeBrowsing cannot work in Basilisk then why is that extremely long list of preferences for it in about:config still there? Maybe very time consuming to remove (hence the added preference to disable the SafeBrowsing UI by default as a solution)?
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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2018-05-23, 10:15

Seriously? :crazy:

So you're going in to about:config, enable a non-intended feature, find that it works in a test and expect us to provide support for or have answers about it beyond what I've already said that it requires an API key? If it works without one for you, then you can consider yourself "lucky" (with the dubious luck of sending all your browsing activity to Google, of course) but we can't answer questions about a service that isn't part of Basilisk's feature set and disabled/hidden for a good reason.
If you enable the controls and enable the feature, you are on your own for answers. Also keep in mind that other applications building on the UXP platform might maybe want to use Google Safebrowsing if they obtain a key for their application. Think a little bigger than one program here, please.
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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Moonchild » 2018-05-23, 10:56

Of note, UXP issue #230 has made the whole safebrowsing feature optional at build time again (like it is in Pale Moon v27). Expect future builds of Basilisk to exclude it completely.

Important: keep in mind that Basilisk is development software. Its feature set can and will change over time, and included Firefox-isms and Mozilla-isms that are present may not be present in the future. Because the platform is broader than the application means that we won't have a polished, minimalist feature set in the applications per se, especially not in development vessels. If you poke around in about;config I'm sure you can find plenty of other things from the platform that are irrelevant to Basilisk or maybe even incompatible with it. That's why you shouldn't poke around in the realm of dragons.
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Re: Google Safe Browsing and Basilisk

Unread post by Latitude » 2018-05-25, 12:50

Good to know that Pale Moon team would "purify" Basilisk's code from that proprietary Google Safe Browsing bloat code.

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