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Fonts on Linux

Postby kjm007 » Sat, 02 Dec 2017, 13:36

After a update a slight improvement with the fonts. Maybe the next update will fix it. :thumbup:

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby Moonchild » Sat, 02 Dec 2017, 19:00

The known issue with freetype fonts has been fixed in this update; there's nothing else to do there.

If there's still an issue, then please indicate exactly what is wrong (screenshots would help)
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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby kjm007 » Sun, 03 Dec 2017, 10:39

The fonts on basilisk are just like this
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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby distantpluto » Sun, 03 Dec 2017, 12:40

kjm007 - you could have posted this on the existing thread you opened https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?t=17511&p=128214#p128214.

Auto updating of Basilisk isn't working for me but I downloaded the latest version (2017.11.30 64bit) and the font rendering is indeed better. Not as good as it should be but much better. Oddly, text in the address bar and on UI elements looks worse to me than the actual web page, certainly before the update. See screenshot from other thread (or kjm007's screenshot of that screenshot above) and compare to this one...

Basilisk 2017.11.30
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This is good enough for me anyway.

Off-topic:
Regarding my lack of auto updating - are there any parameters I can pass to "updater" to force an update? Thanks.

Edit: I've just seen the other forum topic regarding this, I'll post there.

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby kjm007 » Sun, 03 Dec 2017, 13:06

OK thanks for that.

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby mr tribute » Sun, 03 Dec 2017, 14:25

Maybe this is OT in this thread but still something related. I'm referring to application fonts below, not website fonts.

In Ubuntu (maybe Linux Mint too) there has been a glaring font bug in Firefox since 2009. Firefox (and Pale Moon) doesn't follow system font rendering because it's rendered in a different way. This bug was always so obvious I always wondered why Canonical/Ubuntu let this slip through. I guess it had something to do with "not modify upstream" or some other bs because they modify upstream all the time.

I fix this for myself by modifying all system fonts in the terminal. (I'm actually not sure what is being done, but all my fonts look similar and thin afterwards (which I like).)

So yeah, in 2017 it's really annoying to try out Ubuntu and see this Firefox bug from 2009. Last time I tried it it affected Pale Moon too. The fix is the same for both Firefox and Pale Moon. But you may want to search Ubuntu+Firefox+fonts yourself to find a solution that suits you. It should be possible to make Firefox follow Ubuntu fonts without making every font thinner. The solution lies in making Firefox/Pale Moon follow your desktop (Gnome, KDE, MATE) font rendering.

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby distantpluto » Sun, 03 Dec 2017, 16:19

mr tribute - just a FYI but I don't have any font issues with Pale Moon! (I don't run a DE either).

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby fillerup » Mon, 04 Dec 2017, 01:32

mr tribute wrote:Maybe this is OT in this thread but still something related. I'm referring to application fonts below, not website fonts.

In Ubuntu (maybe Linux Mint too) there has been a glaring font bug in Firefox since 2009. Firefox (and Pale Moon) doesn't follow system font rendering because it's rendered in a different way. This bug was always so obvious I always wondered why Canonical/Ubuntu let this slip through. I guess it had something to do with "not modify upstream" or some other bs because they modify upstream all the time.

I fix this for myself by modifying all system fonts in the terminal. (I'm actually not sure what is being done, but all my fonts look similar and thin afterwards (which I like).)

So yeah, in 2017 it's really annoying to try out Ubuntu and see this Firefox bug from 2009. Last time I tried it it affected Pale Moon too. The fix is the same for both Firefox and Pale Moon. But you may want to search Ubuntu+Firefox+fonts yourself to find a solution that suits you. It should be possible to make Firefox follow Ubuntu fonts without making every font thinner. The solution lies in making Firefox/Pale Moon follow your desktop (Gnome, KDE, MATE) font rendering.

yes you need to adjust default GTK fonts as i found out last week

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby fatboy » Thu, 18 Jan 2018, 10:44

distantpluto wrote:mr tribute - just a FYI but I don't have any font issues with Pale Moon! (I don't run a DE either).


I am experiencing similar issues.
The font rendering in Pale Moon is beautiful, less so when using Basilisk. This includes bad font rendering on tabs and on web pages.

I am running Arch Linux

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby ianas » Fri, 19 Jan 2018, 23:02

I'm not sure if this is what the OP was referring to but I did notice Firefox 57 (on my distro anyway) moved to the roboto droid font on Linux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roboto
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto
https://software.opensuse.org/package/g ... boto-fonts
while Basilisk still uses Serif maybe it's time for a font change
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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby Moonraker » Fri, 19 Jan 2018, 23:07

ianas wrote:I'm not sure if this is what the OP was referring to but I did notice Firefox 57 (on my distro anyway) moved to the roboto droid font on Linux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roboto
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto
https://software.opensuse.org/package/g ... boto-fonts
while Basilisk still uses Serif maybe it's time for a font change


i see this is google developed.Iy is more focused toward android users.
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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby GMforker » Sat, 20 Jan 2018, 04:19

fatboy wrote:I am experiencing similar issues.
The font rendering in Pale Moon is beautiful, less so when using Basilisk. This includes bad font rendering on tabs and on web pages.

Maybe it's the same problem as in: #306(moebius)

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby ianas » Sat, 20 Jan 2018, 08:48

Moonraker wrote:
ianas wrote:I'm not sure if this is what the OP was referring to but I did notice Firefox 57 (on my distro anyway) moved to the roboto droid font on Linux
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roboto
https://fonts.google.com/specimen/Roboto
https://software.opensuse.org/package/g ... boto-fonts
while Basilisk still uses Serif maybe it's time for a font change


i see this is google developed.Iy is more focused toward android users.

it's the default font used in Firefox 57 on my Linux box Basilisk still (so did Firefox once) uses Serif I'm just suggesting an alternative font the fact it was developed with android in mind shouldn't really matter it's an open sourced font already installed by most distributions that looks good and has what google calls readability unfortunately it's not a unicode font so no cjk support (neither is Serif)
back to the topic at hand it could be hardware related on some systems disabled hardware acceleration (compositing) can cause rendering issues (if there is a crash in kwin5 plasma 5 automatically disables compositing)
the OP should tell us what distro, desktop, video card and driver he's using

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Re: Fonts on Linux

Postby fatboy » Sun, 11 Feb 2018, 19:11

Here is the text I was talking about. It only happens when I'm on my Arch machine and not on Windows. The font spacing in the tabs is the most noticeable "problem"
basilisk_text.png

Here's an example of a website where the font rendering is weird
https://plus.google.com/communities/112 ... 2552005139
font_basilisk.png
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