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Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2024-09-13, 14:06

Basilisk 2024.09.13 has been released!

This release uses the same UXP platform version as Pale Moon 33.3.1.

This release introduces 32-bit Linux x86 builds. They are built on the same platform (Oracle Linux 8/GCC 11) as our x86_64 builds.

The autoupdate service does not currently support FreeBSD and macOS builds so a manual update is required on these operating systems.

See the release notes for more information.

See the downloads page to download the update.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by gabrgv » 2024-09-13, 20:32

It looks like the autoupdater is not working.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2024-09-13, 22:25

gabrgv wrote:
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It looks like the autoupdater is not working.
Thanks for the heads up. I’ll take a look, I probably forgot to restart PHP after copying the files over.

Edit: I took a look and all of the required files are in place for the autoupdates to run. I don't see anything odd in any logs either. I'll come back tomorrow when I have some more time and take a closer look if this doesn't automagically start working again.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by TTraveler » 2024-09-15, 00:07

..

I updated to 2024.09.13 this morning.

All's fine so far. Image

I did a manual update as always....no dramas.....

JFYI I never allow automatic updates because I like the control of being the Captain of this starship, & I never leave security to chance or mishap.

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by patrick-g » 2024-09-15, 04:20

Hi,

On Friday the 13th ;), I got a dialog saying Basilisk can't connect to some updating server.
Since then Basilisk is saying it's up to date even though its version is 2024.08.16 (64-bit) (GTK3).
There is no "Check for update" button or link in the about box, just a gray "Basilisk is up to date".

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-09-15, 13:07

I looked into this a little after getting the same today; seems "aus.basilisk-browser.org" currently doesn't DNS resolve.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2024-09-16, 01:48

Moonchild wrote:
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I looked into this a little after getting the same today; seems "aus.basilisk-browser.org" currently doesn't DNS resolve.
Thanks for looking. That's very odd. I recently changed registrars and moved my DNS to AWS with the intention of eventually moving all the services to AWS, but I made sure to copy all the DNS records over.

The record was definitely there in the web GUI for editing Route53 DNS zones in AWS but when I tried to resolve it it did not resolve just like you said. Deleting the record and recreating it using the exact same content as what was already there fixed it. I have no idea, must have been a bug in AWS.

I guess that explains why I didn't see anything in the server logs.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Honeyko » 2024-10-03, 06:47

Can anyone recommend, for Ubuntu-based distros (I'm puttering in Pop_OS! atm), a GUI package-manager that'll handle tarball installation without me having to mess around in the Terminal fatfingering all the stuff into the wrong spots? Failing that, what are the chances of a Flatpack file?

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by moonbat » 2024-10-03, 07:15

There are plenty of GUI archive management tools and every distro has one bundled with it, you don't have to use the commandline for that. :wtf:
If you're asking for a package manager specifically that handles tarballs - that's a contradiction because a package manager obviates the need to deal with tarballs altogether except that there isn't a package repo for Basilisk. I only ever use the packaged repo version for Pale Moon, it handles updates as well as desktop integration and shortcuts without my having to do anything. Updates for Pale Moon are installed seamlessly the same way as other system updates.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2024-10-03, 12:09

Honeyko wrote:
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what are the chances of a Flatpack file?
Maybe. I certainly won't be doing a Snap package, but a Flatpak is certainly a possibility. It won't be this year if we do release a Flatpak at all.

Personally I prefer AppImages. You just download one file, give that file executable permissions, and run it.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Honeyko » 2024-10-18, 02:14

moonbat wrote:
2024-10-03, 07:15
There are plenty of GUI archive management tools and every distro has one bundled with it, you don't have to use the commandline for that. :wtf:
Using said included tools would be ideal....
If you're asking for a package manager specifically that handles tarballs - that's a contradiction because a package manager obviates the need to deal with tarballs altogether except that there isn't a package repo for Basilisk.
Except for that.
I only ever use the packaged repo version for Pale Moon, it handles updates as well as desktop integration and shortcuts without my having to do anything. Updates for Pale Moon are installed seamlessly the same way as other system updates.
The specific combination of old-school extensions that I want to use (TabMixPlus and ThinTabs) do not mesh well in Pale Moon, with Basilisk handling them much better.
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Personally I prefer AppImages. You just download one file, give that file executable permissions, and run it.
Where might a feller find Basilisk in that form? (The only Linux format I'm seeing at github is tarball.) TIA....

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by andyprough » 2024-10-18, 03:09

moonbat wrote:
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except that there isn't a package repo for Basilisk
Sure there is - there's the Arch AUR repository. And there's many Arch-based distros that use the AUR repo, it would be very easy to find a distro that assists you in keeping an updated version of Basilisk running.

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

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Is there a repo for Ubuntu based distros?
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

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moonbat wrote:
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Is there a repo for Ubuntu based distros?
You could install Basilisk on Ubuntu-based distros via the Arch AUR by using Distrobox. Distrobox allows you to run programs in a container from other distros' repositories.

It's a lot more trouble than it's probably worth though. Just using the official Basilisk tarball would be much easier.

You can search for available package versions of any software for any distro by doing a web search for "repology [package name] versions". For example, here's the repology page for Basilisk: https://repology.org/project/basilisk/versions

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2024-10-18, 15:12

moonbat wrote:
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Is there a repo for Ubuntu based distros?
As far as I know there is not. No one has mentioned it to me.

I looked on pkgs.org and found some distros packaging it in RPM packages. You could use alien to convert the RPM packages to DEB packages and install it that way if you wanted, but you'd have to manually do this for every single Basilisk update. At that point you'd be better off using the official tar archive with autoupdates.

My suggestion for system wide installation:
* extract the tar archive to either something like /opt/basilisk or /home/youruser/bin/basilisk
* ensure your user will have proper filesystem permissions on the directory Basilisk is in (chown -R $(id -u):$(id -g) /path/to/basilisk)
* extract the .desktop file from either the RPM or the AUR packages
* modify the file paths in the .desktop file to point to /path/to/basilisk
* profit
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by micwoj92 » 2024-10-19, 17:37

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Sure there is - there's the Arch AUR repository. And there's many Arch-based distros that use the AUR repo, it would be very easy to find a distro that assists you in keeping an updated version of Basilisk running.
Ah yes, the Arch Arch User Repository repository

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Honeyko » 2024-10-20, 05:12

andyprough wrote:
2024-10-18, 04:53
moonbat wrote:
2024-10-18, 03:57
Is there a repo for Ubuntu based distros?
You could install Basilisk on Ubuntu-based distros via the Arch AUR by using Distrobox. Distrobox allows you to run programs in a container from other distros' repositories.
If you've used Distrobox before, what was your impression of how much overhead it added to the use of any particular tool? (drive-space increase I don't care about, ram usage increase I very much care about, and performance hits I moderately care about)
Just using the official Basilisk tarball would be much easier.
While it may seem "easy" to the early-adopter command-line types, at some point in the probably not-to-distant future (if not arguably happening already), there will be a mass influx of new users abandoning commercial GUI OSes for greener pastures that don't spy on them while picking their pocket, and they're not going to know the first thing about common Linux file-locations, let alone where various unpacked tarball sprinkly bits are supposed to be distributed to. They'll want to just click on the shiny, and go.

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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-10-20, 07:05

Off-topic:
Honeyko wrote:
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in the probably not-to-distant future (if not arguably happening already), there will be a mass influx of new users abandoning commercial GUI OSes for greener pastures that don't spy on them while picking their pocket
Linux proponents keep using this argument but it just doesn't work that way. People (as a generalisation, not counting exceptions) will use a convenient GUI over a difficult command-line that requires them to learn/remember commands any day. They would rather take the spying and pickpocketing than having to fight using their O.S., and I can't really blame them for choosing some form of payment to avoid daily annoyance and have convenience. Also, keep in mind the latest generation has been raised on smartphones and will not understand the notion of typing exact commands to have the device do what they want.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

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Off-topic:
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Linux proponents keep using this argumen
And even now despite how vastly more user friendly Ubuntu and Mint are (for example) compared to older/other distros, Linux GUIs overall still lack polish and proper integration, what with multiple desktop environments and versioning incompatibilities. And GNOME especially has copied the worst of UX Windows 8 onwards and run with it. I've been using KDE Neon, and the KDE project has plenty of addtional programs which are truly excellent - but still drop the ball on basics that were solved last century on Windows.
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Re: Basilisk 2024.09.13 Released!

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Off-topic:
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And even now despite how vastly more user friendly Ubuntu and Mint are (for example) compared to older/other distros, Linux GUIs overall still lack polish and proper integration, what with multiple desktop environments and versioning incompatibilities.
This is exactly why I switched from using Linux as my primary desktop OS to macOS. I wanted a Unix-like, developer-friendly command line similar to what Linux offers, and I also wanted an open source kernel, but I grew tired of the inconsistencies across the Linux desktop experience. I don’t care whether I’m using GNOME or KDE, or if an application relies on GTK, QT, X11, or Wayland—I just want my applications to function consistently. With Linux (or BSD or SunOS for that matter), achieving that often requires a series of hacks that inevitably break after the next toolkit update, desktop environment change, or the latest GNOME development decision that seems to prioritize ideology over user experience.
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