Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

[Moonchild]

The Nvidia Driver site (http://www.geforce.com/drivers) seems to think Pale Moon 26 is an "outdated browser", so useragent sniffing, I guess. Firefox compatibility mode does not help.

Ugh. This site looks like it's specifically sniffing the "rv:" slice of the UA string. I've played around with adding "Firefox" and "Gecko" to it, but the only way I could get the "outdated browser" pop-up to go away was to up the value associated with the "rv:" piece.

Well, 2 options: either they get their sniffing fixed or I'll have to add a site-specific override.

[Layla2015]

This New Version is way more faster than the latest palemoon 25.6 for me...

But its incompatible to IDM (Internet Download Manager) which most user used for fast downloading...
And also noticed smartbox detect my browser as Mobile thats ok....

So far so good But please fix the IDM issue....

[cartel]

The Nvidia Driver site (http://www.geforce.com/drivers) seems to think Pale Moon 26 is an "outdated browser", so useragent sniffing, I guess. Firefox compatibility mode does not help.

Ugh. This site looks like it's specifically sniffing the "rv:" slice of the UA string. I've played around with adding "Firefox" and "Gecko" to it, but the only way I could get the "outdated browser" pop-up to go away was to up the value associated with the "rv:" piece.

Well, 2 options: either they get their sniffing fixed or I'll have to add a site-specific override.

The page works, just close the warning box.

[cartel]

It looks like Adobe's download page for Flash player (https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/) is sniffing for both "Firefox" and "Gecko." I tried FF compatibility mode and a variety of user agents, and the only way I could download any of the installers is with a UA string that included both "Firefox" and "Gecko" in it.

Use this:
https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/f ... player.exe
and
https://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/f ... plugin.exe

https://www.adobe.com/products/flashpla ... tion3.html

[back2themoon]

I've come across a forum that uses Invision Power Board and doesn't work properly (Reply buttons have no effect). I'd rather not post the forum here, please PM me if required.

[LimboSlam]

Thanks again MC, the portable seems to be working out. Only thing is I lost my recent modifications in about:config, but that's all.

[DarthVitrial]

As far as I can tell, PM 26b1 also breaks the "Give a Llama" button on DeviantArt - you click the "give" confirmation button and nothing happens.
There might be some other weird cause aside from Goanna, but if there is I haven't found it.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Several things on dA are known not to work and has been since around their uninspired logo change... For example the download image button.. Though a middle click seems to work as a work around..

[megaman]

Upon visiting http://www.watchcartoononline.com/
It goes to the mobile site first, when it shouldn't.

[Moonchild]

OK, several general remarks about site compatibility:

• Sites can, will, and often do sniff the presented user agent in several ways. Beta 1 doesn't have a very compatible user agent string by default, since it's "unknown".
• As a result, you may be presented with fallback layouts that are limited in function.
• As a result you may also be presented with the mobile version of the site instead of the desktop version.
• As a result, some sites that don't have fallbacks for unknown browsers, may even completely break when they see something unknown

These issues aren't caused by the browser itself per se, or by the inability of the browser to render the sites, but rather by the sites presenting different web page code to the browser because of what it thinks the browser is. Unfortunately in this day and age where we've gone from emerging standards back to a million drafts and random implementations of browser-specific code, sites that want to be "modern" (meaning relying on bleeding edge code that may not be supported or even standard) often end up doing this cheap, outdated "browser detection" and choke on the user agent string presented.

Beta 2 will address some of these issues by introducing a second "compatibility slice" to indicate it's "like Gecko". Ultimately, though, it may be necessary to maintain an on-line list of compatibility strings if sites are slow or unwilling to adopt better practices.

[cartel]

The beta still freezes when watching YouTube and trying to upload to Imgur.
http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8345

[Moonchild]

The beta still freezes when watching YouTube and trying to upload to Imgur.
http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8345

Did you read the first post of this thread? I don't think you did. Please only comment on things that are specific to this beta.

[flaxthejute]

Hi all

I tried using the beta to access a Business Objects XI application. It works pretty well, but right-clicking doesn't bring up the BOXI menu, it brings up the normal Pale Moon context menu. I tried accessing the same app in Pale Moon 25 and everything works as expected. Any suggestions?

[11ryanc]

Overheard some things about Deviantart. The download button does work if you middle click it, or open in a separate tab. It was connected to adblocking, actually. See whenever you access the download option, an ad GUI may come up. You must close it to proceed. With adblocking enabled, it simply does not work at all. This isn't isolated to just Pale Moon, I've noticed it even in Firefox ESR. Love DA as a service, use it on a daily basic. It has become a little headache inducing though. Luckily found a few userstyles, from a da fan, which fixes the UI back a little. And yeah, the beta uses it's own UA. Sites won't always recognize. You could always enable FF Compatibility Mode, or pull over the 25.x useragent.override strings.
On another note, I do have something to report though. It may very well just be an extension compatibility issue, maybe not. Using the last supported Classic Toolbar Buttons addon does work in the latest beta. However, the customize options within main browser GUI became somewhat broken. If I were to move an element around, often context menu items would become unclickable until next browser restart. Does not occur in 25.6.0.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

If you figure out an exception rule for ABL for the dA issue please let me know.

[11ryanc]

None, as far as I know. Maybe a small script could suffice for that purpose? Trigger button into a tab automatically. I'm novice in this area, so I'm honestly guessing. At least the element allows native browser context menu access though. If this were reliant on in-built site controls, it would be messy..

Off-topic:
Shocked Google has not done anything like that yet. Probably just jinxed us all

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Off-topic:
11ryanc to use the offtopic tag properly make sure your text is within the opening and closing offtopic tags. Sorry it has bugged me for years now

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[11ryanc]

Off-topic:
11ryanc to use the offtopic tag properly make sure your text is within the opening and closing offtopic tags. Sorry it has bugged me for years now

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Off-topic:
Uhh.. Sorry, it's been a while. You can put your OCD at ease now lol

[leomate]

Some website (example kaskus.co.id) Always redirect to mobile version (no matter even when i click desktop version in footer)

[11ryanc]

Some website (example kaskus.co.id) Always redirect to mobile version (no matter even when i click desktop version in footer)

Have you tried issuing a useragent.override for the site? FF Compat Mode also still exist in 26.0, it just is not enabled.