Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Nigaikaze » 2015-08-11, 16:29

It looks like Adobe's download page for Flash player (https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/) is sniffing for both "Firefox" and "Gecko." I tried FF compatibility mode and a variety of user agents, and the only way I could download any of the installers is with a UA string that included both "Firefox" and "Gecko" in it.
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Night Wing » 2015-08-11, 16:55

I was on that page earlier this morning for the newest IE and Pale Moon flash versions (18.0.0.232) for use in Windows 7.

I downloaded and installed Flash for Active X in the Internet Explorer browser and I had no problems downloading and installing Flash for NPAPI for Pale Moon. And I do not have Firefox Compat mode enabled (turned on) for Pale Moon. Also, my User Agent Overrider addon/extension was disabled (not turned on) too.

Adobe sees my Pale Moon user agent in Windows 7 as:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.6) Gecko/20150723 PaleMoon/25.6.0
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Nigaikaze » 2015-08-11, 17:08

Night Wing wrote:Adobe sees my Pale Moon user agent in Windows 7 as:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.6) Gecko/20150723 PaleMoon/25.6.0
Yes, my comment above is specifically regarding the 26.0.0b1 beta. You are using 25.6.0.
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Moonchild » 2015-08-11, 17:30

The Gecko slice issue will be solved in the next beta, because it's too widespread of a problem.
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by LimboSlam » 2015-08-11, 21:59

Well Netflix too does not recognize the new Pale Moon, so as discussed before setting UAS to: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.9 PaleMoon/25 does work. Netflix has also resolved it's past issue with not showing the thumbnails after row three, so there should be no problem with this one MC.

And @Nigaikaze I have no issue installing Flash ESR v18.0.0.232 using the new Pale Moon (Goanna).

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Daikun » 2015-08-12, 05:43

Question: Will downloading this beta upgrade my old version of PM, or will this install as a separate browser?

I don't know whether to try this out or not... :?

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Moonchild » 2015-08-12, 06:35

It will install as a normal version of Pale Moon, i.e.: will install over your existing one and use your existing profile. If you're not sure, then don't!
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by ashdav » 2015-08-12, 12:49

To try without installing, For Windows :-
Download the ZIP version of the one you want to try.
Unzip it (obviously!).
Make sure there are no instances of your usual Pale Moon running then double click on the red icon.
The beta version will run but uses your existing profile.
Any changes you make will be reflected in your normal Pale Moon.

Note: you can't have both running at the same time!

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2015-08-12, 13:44

You could also slot it into a portable version..

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by ashdav » 2015-08-12, 23:54

Logged into my sacrificial Gmail account earlier using the beta Pale Moon and got an email from Google that made me smile
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Other than that it all seems to be working as normal but a bit faster to render pages and load Adblock Latitude at startup. :thumbup:

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by LimboSlam » 2015-08-13, 01:22

@Matt A Tobin: How would I slot it into a portable version? Can I just save (download) the zip into my USB, open the file and proceed with extraction? But what if I already extracted it to my desktop, can I then move it to my USB stick?

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Moonchild » 2015-08-13, 06:30

You can copy the extracted files to the bin folder in Pale Moon Portable (remove the old files first) retaining the same structure (the actual files being in bin\palemoon\).
Then start palemoon-portable as usual.

I'll provide a portable/self-contained test version with the next beta, but testing it in an installed setup is also important :)
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by back2themoon » 2015-08-13, 09:21

This site doesn't like the new version, compatibility mode doesn't work either.

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by back2themoon » 2015-08-13, 09:29

The gfx.direct2d.disabled (true) doesn't seem to work, I'm still getting the annoying blurriness/high contrast.

Also, I think there's a clash with the NoSquint extension, the / and F3 keys have some zoom-related effect.

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Moonchild » 2015-08-13, 09:45

there are no differences between the current release version and the Goanna beta 1 in terms of the direct2d preference. There should be absolutely no difference, unless some other software dealing with DirectX treats the browser differently.
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by back2themoon » 2015-08-13, 11:36

Moonchild wrote:there are no differences between the current release version and the Goanna beta 1 in terms of the direct2d preference. There should be absolutely no difference, unless some other software dealing with DirectX treats the browser differently.
I can only think of the AMD drivers. Unchecking "Use hardware acceleration when available" doesn't have an effect on that issue, either (it does on v25 and earlier).

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by ashdav » 2015-08-13, 14:08

Going to Meteoradar http://www.meteoradar.co.uk/home/maps?bg=0&lat=52.75 the small box at top left displays "your browser does not support charts".
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Should show a 3hr local forecast.
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Works fine in 25.6 (using same profile for both).
Using Win 7 32bit
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by DarthVitrial » 2015-08-13, 14:11

The Nvidia Driver site (http://www.geforce.com/drivers) seems to think Pale Moon 26 is an "outdated browser", so useragent sniffing, I guess. Firefox compatibility mode does not help.

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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Night Wing » 2015-08-13, 14:45

DarthVitrial wrote:The Nvidia Driver site (http://www.geforce.com/drivers) seems to think Pale Moon 26 is an "outdated browser", so useragent sniffing, I guess. Firefox compatibility mode does not help.
I hope this gets fixed (if it can) in v26 because this is the page where I update both of my two tower computers graphics drivers for their respective Nvidia graphics cards.
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Re: Pale Moon 26 (Goanna) beta1 feedback thread

Post by Nigaikaze » 2015-08-13, 20:09

DarthVitrial wrote:The Nvidia Driver site (http://www.geforce.com/drivers) seems to think Pale Moon 26 is an "outdated browser", so useragent sniffing, I guess. Firefox compatibility mode does not help.
Ugh. This site looks like it's specifically sniffing the "rv:" slice of the UA string. I've played around with adding "Firefox" and "Gecko" to it, but the only way I could get the "outdated browser" pop-up to go away was to up the value associated with the "rv:" piece.
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