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Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by mopskarel » 2025-05-05, 19:03

Can it be possible? I found somewhere on Github that someone ported firefox 45 there, but its too outdated. It can make from OS/2 a usable system. Modified Pale Moon works even on Windows 98, then i think its not that impossible.

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by Moonchild » 2025-05-05, 19:21

It's not possible. We don't have supporting code for OS/2
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by mopskarel » 2025-05-05, 19:40

Ok, thanks for reply.

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by frostknight » 2025-05-05, 19:49

Moonchild wrote:
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It's not possible. We don't have supporting code for OS/2
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Do be people still use OS/2? If you want to continue this via pm instead feel free to do so.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by mopskarel » 2025-05-05, 20:07

frostknight wrote:
2025-05-05, 19:49
Moonchild wrote:
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It's not possible. We don't have supporting code for OS/2
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Do be people still use OS/2? If you want to continue this via pm instead feel free to do so.
If i know there is some modern build of it. But 98 also no one uses today.

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by mopskarel » 2025-05-05, 20:08

Moonchild wrote:
2025-05-05, 19:21
It's not possible. We don't have supporting code for OS/2
Btw i wanted to ask, i made IE8 theme addon and uploaded it, there are red - under Active and Reviewed, that means it needs to be verified?

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by frostknight » 2025-05-06, 01:00

mopskarel wrote:
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If i know there is some modern build of it. But 98 also no one uses today.
Found this though after searching if that matters:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ArcaOS

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by q160765803 » 2025-05-06, 01:08

They seems to have a ESR52 based repo, and might be possible to integrate and produce a working Pale Moon binary?
https://sourceforge.net/p/mozilla-os2/c ... ster/tree/

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by frostknight » 2025-05-06, 01:13

q160765803 wrote:
2025-05-06, 01:08
They seems to have a ESR52 based repo, and might be possible to integrate and produce a working Pale Moon binary?
https://sourceforge.net/p/mozilla-os2/c ... ster/tree/
Maybe someone should get a hold of them for this purpose then. I doubt moonchild would want to do this alone.

But if they were willing to do most of it, Moonchild probably would have less issue with it.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2025-05-06, 01:15

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I loved OS/2 Warp back in the '90s. With a couple of third-party utilities installed it ended up being the first rock solid crash proof OS I ran. It's a darned shame it never took off, but I seem to have a habit of backing technologies that fail (BetaMax, MiniDisc, OS/2 Warp, 3D TV, etc.).
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by frostknight » 2025-05-06, 01:23

Nigaikaze wrote:
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I loved OS/2 Warp back in the '90s. With a couple of third-party utilities installed it ended up being the first rock solid crash proof OS I ran. It's a darned shame it never took off, but I seem to have a habit of backing technologies that fail (BetaMax, MiniDisc, OS/2 Warp, 3D TV, etc.).
Sadly, the most imperfect designs seem to climb to the top just because if the money possibilities are there, no matter how crappy it is, it will take off.
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windows is a good example of this.

Though to be clear, windows 95 wasn't terribly bad, it was bad, but I have heard it said, that it was around windows 98 that things started to get more restricting in some ways that were problematic.

I don't know specifically, but windows 95 you could use DOS games still on it. :)

Beyond that, not sure.

I really doubt there could have been significant security risks with msdos that the windows layer didn't have in spades.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by moonbat » 2025-05-06, 01:42

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2025-05-06, 02:17

Personally I'd love for UXP to build on top of OS/2, especially since they are struggling to get modern browsers working. The most recent Firefox available is 45 as already stated earlier in the thread. I have a paid ArcaOS license and use it on a few older machines because it's fun/cool/I'm a masochist.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by frostknight » 2025-05-06, 02:36

moonbat wrote:
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Idealism will get you nowhere.
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If you think I am idealistic, look at the FSF & their supporters and their idea of what constitutes Respects Your Freedom hardware.

You will be stunned how idealistic they are.

But yeah, I realize that this world doesn't listen to sane ideals, being well known, having a lot of money, doing a lot of shiny user friendly graphics triumphs as much as I hate it.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2025-05-06, 05:36

OS/2 is long out of support, why do you want to use it connected to the internet?

I also don't see a reason for a current browser to support such an old OS, especially if manpower is needed for getting modern web to work.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by andyprough » 2025-05-06, 06:19

mopskarel wrote:
2025-05-05, 19:03
Can it be possible? I found somewhere on Github that someone ported firefox 45 there, but its too outdated. It can make from OS/2 a usable system. Modified Pale Moon works even on Windows 98, then i think its not that impossible.
You should be able to use browservice on OS/2 to get decent browsing: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice

That would be a much better solution than trying to hack Pale Moon into an unrecognizable mess for use on OS/2, or for use on win98 for that matter. Browservice is already known to work on OS/2 Warp 4.52 according to the github page. And on Windows 98 Second Edition, for your friends who are into that.

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by mopskarel » 2025-05-06, 12:21

andyprough wrote:
2025-05-06, 06:19
mopskarel wrote:
2025-05-05, 19:03
Can it be possible? I found somewhere on Github that someone ported firefox 45 there, but its too outdated. It can make from OS/2 a usable system. Modified Pale Moon works even on Windows 98, then i think its not that impossible.
You should be able to use browservice on OS/2 to get decent browsing: https://github.com/ttalvitie/browservice

That would be a much better solution than trying to hack Pale Moon into an unrecognizable mess for use on OS/2, or for use on win98 for that matter. Browservice is already known to work on OS/2 Warp 4.52 according to the github page. And on Windows 98 Second Edition, for your friends who are into that.
Yes, but you need another computer to run it (or at least Raspberry Pi). Browservice im using on my Pentium 3 500 MHz satellite with 64 MB RAM and AMD486DX2 66MHz with 16 MB RAM. Also on NT 3.51 VM. But for a Core2Duo computer wich can work separately today its bad.

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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by suzyne » 2025-05-06, 13:34

Not saying it should be tried, but for that sort of retro experience wouldn't Haiku be a more worthwhile target? Not that I have ever used that operating system, or would imagine that Pale Moon running on it is even remotely possible, but I have read about the interesting story of it and BeOS.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by Moonchild » 2025-05-06, 13:42

BeOS is just as dead as OS/2. Not even sure why people are so adamant about connecting those systems to the Internet and wanting a modern browser for it. Just let them be museum pieces; nostalgia is all well and good but you're really trying way too hard to bridge generational chasms here.
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Re: Pale Moon for OS/2

Unread post by Basilisk-Dev » 2025-05-06, 13:48

Pentium4User wrote:
2025-05-06, 05:36
OS/2 is long out of support
As already mentioned earlier in the thread, this is not true. https://www.arcanoae.com/arcaos/

OS/2 based computers are still heavily used in a few industries. Every single request for tracking a package sent to USPS goes through a server running OS/2. Most Ford vehicles manufactures in the US still use OS/2 based computers to run some of the robots that build the cars.

Outside of retrocomputing or for fun/nostalgia, there isn't much reason to use it nowadays as a general purpose desktop however.
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