Long-term solution for CF and other site issues?

[noellarkin]

I started thinking about this after the Cloudflare issues earlier this year: How difficult would it be to set PaleMoon up so it always mimics the latest version of Firefox in the UserAgent passed in HTTP requests, as well as WebWorkers (as of now, it seems that even if the UA is spoofed, the real UA is leaked by WebWorkers)?
It seems to me that CF is going to keep prioritizing the most common browsers, Chrome and Firefox - - and the same goes for many websites.
Since PM's engine is more similar to FF than it is to Chrome, would it be extremely difficult or impossible for Pale Moon to emulate FF's fingerprint out-of-the-box?
Wouldn't that be a good long-term solution?
Something similar to what Tor project does: just mimic a commonly used version of FF.

[moonbat]

This is the wrong approach because PM would be advertising itself as what it isn't - and other sites would break if they attempted to use FF specific features. It's not something that can be fixed at the browser side of things IMO, we will have to grin and bear it with Cloudflare.

[Moonchild]

TOR can get away with it because it's a rebuild of Firefox, not a fork. They are effectively the Firefox version they say they are in their UA.

[noellarkin]

and other sites would break if they attempted to use FF specific features

True, but it seems many sites are breaking not because of feature issues (PM can open most sites these days) but because of stupid browser UA whitelists/blacklists. Wouldn't hard-coding a Firefox UA into PaleMoon get rid of that problem, atleast? The more usable PM is, out-of-the-box, the more user adoption.

[Moonchild]

Firefox compatibility mode is the default for a reason. We already present a "somewhat compatible" Firefox UA to websites. For websites that need specific other strings than our defaults, we have site-specific user-agent overrides (for which some extensions have been made to make it easier to enter them, e.g. Sasuga).
We're already doing everything we reasonably can. As long as websites keep discriminating, we'll have to deal with these symptoms. it's just the way it is. We can't force them to be more broadly compatible; that is up to them.

[back2themoon]

Same old issue, unfortunately. As mentioned, mimicking moving, non-Goanna targets is not realistic. The best solution would be pushing for establishing Pale Moon / Goanna as an additional player/test platform.

And yes, all this has been discussed before: time and money required...