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Re: v33 public beta

Unread post by ag0044 » 2024-01-25, 06:41

Windows 10 Pro 22H2.

Closed Pale Moon. Made a backup of my profiles.

Extracted the beta files into C:\Program Files\Pale Moon Beta. Created a shortcut on the the Desktop. Double-clicked the shortcut, and all on-screen activity stopped - froze. Could not move the mouse pointer. No keyboard response either. Had to press and hold the power switch.

After re-booting, I changed the shortcut by adding "-P". Double-clicked that, and same result. Didn't even get to the Profile Manager.

Probably just me or my machine. I'm willing and happy to try again with whatever diagnostic tools.
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Re: v33 public beta

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-01-25, 08:25

ag0044 wrote:
2024-01-25, 06:41
Extracted the beta files into C:\Program Files\Pale Moon Beta. Created a shortcut on the the Desktop. Double-clicked the shortcut, and all on-screen activity stopped - froze. Could not move the mouse pointer. No keyboard response either. Had to press and hold the power switch.
Ouch. I'm afraid that might be your machine, though, and Pale Moon unfortunately triggering what the problem is. Hard lockups like that usually don't happen because of something running as a normal application and pretty much always indicate a driver or hardware issue. Try running some diagnostic tools (memtest86 etc)

FTR I'm on the same edition of Windows 10 (64).
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Re: v33 public beta

Unread post by ag0044 » 2024-01-25, 11:12

Thanks for that. I didn't really think it was PM beta. Memtest showed no errors.

The machine is getting older, like me. Intel i5, with a NVIDIA GeForce GT640 video card. It has been a solid performer for over 10 years.

I have a vague recollection that this happened before (last 12 months?). My vaguer, highly dubious, recollection was that it was with a beta of Basilisk. When the release was final, it worked perfectly.

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Re: v33 public beta

Unread post by athenian200 » 2024-01-25, 13:09

ag0044 wrote:
2024-01-25, 11:12
I have a vague recollection that this happened before (last 12 months?). My vaguer, highly dubious, recollection was that it was with a beta of Basilisk. When the release was final, it worked perfectly.
There might be some codepaths being enabled when we release beta builds that aren't enabled in release builds. We don't really do beta builds that often, so it's possible there are bugs specific to beta builds that we haven't really stumbled upon.

The thing that stands out to me here is that you say this happened twice, both times with a beta version of a UXP application. It probably isn't our code, but that does stand out as weird to me.
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Re: v33 public beta

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2024-01-29, 14:01

sanstones wrote:
2024-01-25, 01:52
But one thing that is still a problem for me is hanging when checking out on any site that uses Shopify. Have to kill and restart Pale Moon. That started sometime last fall. i.e. bulkeez.com
Please create a separate topic, so this can be tracked down.
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Re: v33 public beta

Unread post by ag0044 » 2024-01-31, 12:28

Thank you Moonchild and Athenian for your help.

Just so you know - and can ponder? - I've now installed PM33, and it's working fine, as is my machine. Which makes it all beyond my understanding.

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Re: v33 public beta

Unread post by Moonchild » 2024-01-31, 15:20

well the beta is compiled with slightly different code paths and optimizations, so maybe it just tickled it wron.

otherwise I can only suggest it was this fella:
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