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Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by carpet » 2022-06-30, 20:59

I'm just curious if Qwant was considered when choosing Mojeek and what were the advantages of Mojeek. I'm not necessarily suggesting Qwant and have nothing against trying Mojeek (hadn't heard of it before), I just know I've had excellent results with Qwant and they have their own indexing like Mojeek and their features are similar at least as far as listed here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compariso ... ch_engines

so I was wondering if Mojeek has some advantage.

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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by jobbautista9 » 2022-07-01, 03:01

Well Mojeek is accessible from every country, while Qwant is not (I can't access it here from the Philippines), so maybe that's why it's not included in the default search engines.
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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by van p » 2022-07-01, 04:17

carpet wrote:
2022-06-30, 20:59
they have their own indexing
My understanding is that Qwant uses Bing, at least to some extent.

Edit: Qwant's privacy policy twice references Bing's privacy policy. Also, an announcement was made in 2019 about a partnership between M$ and Qwant, with Bing's algorithm mentioned in the announcement. Don't know if that's still in effect.
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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-07-01, 10:53

The whole point of adding Mojeek was to have an independent alternative search engine to DDG that does not track, does not apply censorship and is not relying on results that are censored or biased from an upstream. Qwant simply doesn't meet those criteria. The fact that they even block entire countries only compounds with it :P
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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by carpet » 2022-10-12, 12:29

Moonchild wrote:
2022-07-01, 10:53
The whole point of adding Mojeek was to have an independent alternative search engine to DDG that does not track, does not apply censorship and is not relying on results that are censored or biased from an upstream. Qwant simply doesn't meet those criteria. The fact that they even block entire countries only compounds with it :P
Where is there information on Qwant censoring, applying bias from upstream and blocking countries? I mean how do you know that; where did you find that out?

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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by leothetechguy » 2022-10-12, 14:51

Moonchild wrote:
2022-07-01, 10:53
[...] The fact that they even block entire countries only compounds with it :P
carpet wrote:
2022-10-12, 12:29
Where is there information on Qwant [...] blocking countries? I mean how do you know that; where did you find that out?
jobbautista9 wrote:
2022-07-01, 03:01
Well Mojeek is accessible from every country, while Qwant is not (I can't access it here from the Philippines), so maybe that's why it's not included in the default search engines.

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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by carpet » 2022-10-12, 15:51

Um this is just quoting the same things that I quoted and was asking about.

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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by Blacklab » 2022-10-12, 16:55

Um... maybe just try putting a search term like "information on Qwant censoring search results" (adjust to taste) into Qwant, Mojeek, DDG, etc? :eh: :coffee:
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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by leothetechguy » 2022-10-12, 17:16

carpet wrote:
2022-10-12, 15:51
Um this is just quoting the same things that I quoted and was asking about.
Judging from the comment by jobbautista9, it looks like Qwant is blocking certain countries, which is what Moonchild acknowledges and sees as a reputable source of information to come to the same conclusion, which would already be enough to not include it by default as a search option.
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PS. Forum seems to be missing Smilies for 'Give me strength' and 'Duh!' :) :think:
You should've used an offtopic tag :roll:

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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by Mæstro » 2022-10-12, 18:03

I had used Qwant until it had announced in Ⅲ 22 that it would punish Russian results. This had prompted me to discover and suggest Mojeek to replace it on the forum. (See thread from hence.) Moreover, I have reported before that Qwant yields only nonsense text in Slovenian for search results should one try to use it from any Asiatic country. One can check for oneself with a VPN with Asiatic servers.
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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-10-12, 19:05

carpet wrote:
2022-10-12, 12:29
Where is there information on Qwant censoring, applying bias from upstream
It uses Bing search results and has a data partnership with Bing. Since Bing censors results, so does QWant. Since Bing biases results, so does QWant.
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and blocking countries?
See other replies above.
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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by carpet » 2022-10-13, 21:36

TheRealMaestro wrote:
2022-10-12, 18:03
I had used Qwant until it had announced in Ⅲ 22 that it would punish Russian results...
Many thanks. This actually answers the question unlike some of the other replies which are merely trolling and taunting.

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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by carpet » 2022-10-13, 21:38

Moonchild wrote:
2022-10-12, 19:05
It uses Bing search results and has a data partnership with Bing....
Thank you. This too is an actual answer like therealmaestro's.

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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-10-14, 08:54

Off-topic:
carpet wrote:
2022-10-13, 21:36
other replies which are merely trolling and taunting.
Actually, they weren't. But they did require you to actually do something to get your answer - that doesn't equate either trolling or taunting but rather pointing out you should have made an effort to answer your question yourself first instead of defaulting to using other people as a resource.
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Re: Mojeek, Qwant

Unread post by jobbautista9 » 2022-10-14, 09:14

Qwant is still blocked for me btw, here's a screenshot to show that I'm not "trolling".
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