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winPenPack vs PortableApps?

Posted: 2022-06-02, 19:09
by nguyen9173
There is a repack of Pale Moon portable in the portableapps format here and I'm using it:

https://joosengportableapp.blogspot.com ... glish.html

It doesn't violate your copyright since it's will download your portable Pale Moon in winPenPack format and converted them to PortableApps format.

IMO PortableApps format is superior to winPenPack and I think you should adopt it officially and replacing winPenPack format with it.

If you have your browser in PortableApps format you could submit it to PortableApps.com just like Mozilla does. It will have more exposure so more people will know and use it.

Re: winPenPack vs PortableApps?

Posted: 2022-06-02, 19:48
by Moonchild
Yup, they dodge the redist restrictions by only offering the tool and not redistributing the browser. Not particularly happy with that grey use to convert it on a client's PC but eh, what can you do. :|

Of course using such a thing is entirely at your own risk and peril.
nguyen9173 wrote:
2022-06-02, 19:09
IMO PortableApps format is superior to winPenPack and I think you should adopt it officially and replacing winPenPack format with it.
And why do you think so? What is so "superior" about using a different launcher?
At the time (many years ago) I considered and evaluated several portable launcher formats and PortableApps was both much more complicated to set up on the dev side, as well as trying way too hard to make it a walled garden/managed service tied to portableapps.com, so I chose WinPenPack which has worked very well for our purposes.

Re: winPenPack vs PortableApps?

Posted: 2022-06-03, 12:54
by billmcct
nguyen9173 wrote:
2022-06-02, 19:09
If you have your browser in PortableApps format you could submit it to PortableApps.com just like Mozilla does.
What exactly makes you think Mozilla submits anything to PortableApps? Mozilla has never, ever produced a Portable version of anything.
John Haller (who owns PortableApps) many years ago requested and received permission form Mozilla to produce a PortableApps version of Firefox and Thunderbird. Every version of Firefox portable is built by John. There are very few apps submitted by the original developers to PortableApps. WSCC was one but they no longer do so. Most if not all are built (with permission) by third parties.

Re: winPenPack vs PortableApps?

Posted: 2022-06-15, 14:39
by nguyen9173
billmcct wrote:
2022-06-03, 12:54
nguyen9173 wrote:
2022-06-02, 19:09
If you have your browser in PortableApps format you could submit it to PortableApps.com just like Mozilla does.
What exactly makes you think Mozilla submits anything to PortableApps? Mozilla has never, ever produced a Portable version of anything.
John Haller (who owns PortableApps) many years ago requested and received permission form Mozilla to produce a PortableApps version of Firefox and Thunderbird. Every version of Firefox portable is built by John. There are very few apps submitted by the original developers to PortableApps. WSCC was one but they no longer do so. Most if not all are built (with permission) by third parties.
Yes. They never submitted anything but they declared the portableapps version to be the Official portable version of Firefox, stated very clearly on their website. What were the Firefox of portableapps taken from? Of course by extracting from the official Firefox installer. Mozilla only gives portableapps the rights to use official branding and recognized that they are not violating copyright and their distribution of Firefox is safe and genuine. This is more than enough. You could do the same by granting Jooseng the same permission as what Mozilla gives the guys at portableapps (you are free to contact to exchange with him). After that, he could submit his portable Pale Moon to be published officially on the portableapps platform. Remember, Jooseng didn't changes anything from your binaries, he only fetched the winpenpack portable binaries from you and convert it to portableapps format. The template for his portableapps based portable Pale Moon is of course Firefox portable. Hope it helps.