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Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 02:48
by iBenny
Hi.

Since I don't know when (latest update ?), the password manager fails to work despite the option to record passwords being checked.

When consulting the password list, it stays empty despite passwords being recorded.

Password user ID keeps empty and... no wonder since the password list is empty.

I used to have dozens of passwords.

key3.db is 16k
logins.json is 104k

Should I substitute them with my FF files:

key3.db (16k)
key4.db (288k)
logins.json (125k) ?

What is the difference between key3 and key4 ?

Here is my Error console status :
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Best regards
iBenny

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 04:54
by Moonchild
"User canceled master password entry" -- you have to enter your master password to get access to your stored passwords. If you don't/press cancel on the dialog, then you won't get access. This is by design.
Enter your master password when you are asked for it.

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 05:47
by New Tobin Paradigm
I'd say the profile is corrupt.

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 06:01
by Moonchild
Well he should definitely have a key4.db in his profile so if that's missing then he either didn't upgrade properly or indeed it's corrupt.

iBenny: if you upgraded from a very old version, read this:
http://developer.palemoon.org/docs/profile-migration/

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 15:49
by iBenny
Hi there,

I one time configured a Master PW but unchecked it after a while. You pretend I need it anyway ?

BTW : I sometimes copy/paste my keys/logins files from PM to FF in order to take advantage of all my PW recorded in PM. I might have done the reverse also...

Best regards
iBenny

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 16:06
by New Tobin Paradigm
Doesn't removing a master password destroy the entire store?

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 18:30
by iBenny
Isn't there any data import/export function in PM ? for pwds per instance ?

Best regards,
iBenny

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-21, 19:41
by New Tobin Paradigm
Only JustOff's extension.

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-22, 06:28
by Moonchild
New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-10-21, 16:06
Doesn't removing a master password destroy the entire store?
No, it will decrypt everything and store it in plaintext.
Same thing when you change your master password: it will decrypt everything then re-encrypt with the new password.

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-22, 06:30
by Moonchild
iBenny wrote:
2021-10-21, 15:49
I one time configured a Master PW but unchecked it after a while. You pretend I need it anyway ?
I'm not pretending anything. I'm just going by the errors in the console which says you cancelled the master password dialog.

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-22, 22:46
by iBenny
Hi

I created a new profile and noticed it contained a key4.db + cert9.db + logins.json. Fine ! I then copied those files from a FF profile and lo-and-behold... it worked :thumbup: and the newly created profile could display the pwds.

I then copied these same 3 FF files in my default profile and... :thumbdown: NO recognition !? The password manager displays nothing.

Do I need to close PM in order to replace these pwds files or these can be... "hot-swapped" ?

Best regards
iBenny

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-22, 22:58
by New Tobin Paradigm
And your new profile is now considered corrupt because you mangled it.

[SOLVED] Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-22, 23:40
by iBenny
Language fixed ! Pwds works now (recopied from FF)...

Not so corrupt isn't it ?

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-22, 23:47
by New Tobin Paradigm
That's the thing. Profile corruption can be very subtle and produce unexpected and cryptic glitches and issues. THAT is why we have written about it for years.

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-23, 01:53
by iBenny
Please mark as [SOLVED] !!!

Best regards.
iBenny

Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-23, 04:57
by coffeebreak
iBenny wrote:
2021-10-21, 18:30
any data import/export function in PM ? for pwds per instance ?
I use the Password Backup Tool extension.
iBenny wrote:
2021-10-23, 01:53
mark as [SOLVED]
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Posted: 2021-10-25, 17:48
by iBenny
Thanks coffeebreak ! :thumbup: