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Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by Robin_WH » 2021-03-28, 03:18

Hello, recently I became aware of unusual sort of problem.
The cloud storage Mega.nz don´t allows me to download data through browser anymore and tells me that: "Unfortunately, Palemoon has an insufficient buffer to decrypt data in the browser, please install the MEGA desktop app to download large files (or use Chrome)."
Do I really have no other choice?

For example try this link: https://mega.nz/file/UAB2BbxZ#lgfxqRS11 ... s-ALPCm4Eg
Palemoon displays said message, while FF86 downloads the file just fine

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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-03-28, 05:05

Got the same message.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by vannilla » 2021-03-28, 10:36

If I remember correctly, it happens when the file to download is larger than an arbitrary size.
Haven't checked myself, but you might try to download a smaller file and see if it works.

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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by micwoj92 » 2021-03-29, 10:28

Try changing user agent. With Pale Moon got same message, but on Basilisk I only got "Downloading ZIP files larger than 2GB might require an additional unpacker tool (such as "7zip"). Unfortunately, ZIP64 is not natively supported by all operating systems." and the download STARTED fine, I didn't have time to finish downloading, but it could work.

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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-03-29, 15:13

It is some boneheaded design decision it actually abuses the hell out of web storage to download the entire file into something designed to be an alternative to cookies to store a limited amount of data then once streamed into that it emulates a standard download client side once it is stored then it is deleted from web storage once the download is complete.

I don't understand the logic behind why they do this but the feature nor the client was designed to store the crazy amount of binary data this way. This way it is entirely dependant on system specs like available ram and webstorage not only being enabled but also feature and storage limits AND system resouces being exactly like Chrome at all times.

This is also why the 2gb limit because Windows 32bit.

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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-03-30, 10:52

It's just the modern insanity of torturing a web browser into being everything and the kitchen sink instead of a dedicated application. They could just direct people to install their desktop client for decryption, but no.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by Robin_WH » 2021-04-08, 00:47

Is it really insane want to download files through the browser? I think there was a service called "File Transfer Protocol" which browsers used... Downloading files is a basic function any browser should have.
The problem exists, and exist only in PM as far as I know. So please, repair, what is broken instead of moaning about insanity of the world.

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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-04-08, 00:58

Robin_WH wrote:
2021-04-08, 00:47
Is it really insane want to download files through the browser?
What's insane is expecting to decrypt humongous files within the browser so that they can be downloaded. That's not what a browser is designed for, and mega.nz isn't a straightforward file downloading site like the rest.
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I think there was a service called "File Transfer Protocol" which browsers used
It's a standard internet protocol similar to HTTP, and would require a server to offer it for the browser to use. Chrome has stopped supporting it because Google decreed it 'obsolete'.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-04-08, 03:01

Off-topic:
moonbat wrote:
2021-04-08, 00:58
Chrome has stopped supporting it because Google decreed it 'obsolete'.
Google decreed it "obsolete" because they can't monetize FTP.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by badnick » 2021-04-08, 04:29

I think it has nothing to do with "Pale Moon buffer", it's just a lie to force you to use chrome. Just 2-3 months ago I downloaded videoclips from here https://mega.nz/folder/eEoDEKYB#IBatxDL-cyeEuRNB3Ddd3A
and there was no problem. Now I got the same message like you.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-04-08, 05:08

badnick wrote:
2021-04-08, 04:29
Just 2-3 months ago I downloaded videoclips from here
The problem is with files over a couple of gigs. I've been using Mega to access custom ROMs for my phone, developers often host them here, and typically files around 900 950 MB downloaded just fine.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by Robin_WH » 2021-07-09, 11:54

Is it really such big problem to support bigger files decryption? FF nor Chrome does not find troublesome.

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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-07-09, 12:34

Then use them. Just because their philosophy is to throw everything and the kitchen sink into the browser doesn't mean Pale Moon has to ape them. File decryption is not what a web browser is designed for.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-07-09, 13:50

The problem is not the browser's design.
The problem is mega.nz's design.

Instead of using industry-standard TLS encryption in-transport, they insist on sending browsers files as monolithic blobs of mangled data that the browser then has to reassemble/unmangle. This effectively requires the browser to store the entire file data internally (likely in memory) to the size of the file in question (+ overhead). Pale Moon imposes some (rather lenient!) limits on how many resources JS objects can use and if that isn't satisfying how much they want for their temporary data-holding, then it will fail.
This is entirely a design decision on their end and I refuse to change the very sane limits of data storage to cater to a backwards file transfer system like theirs.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-07-09, 15:01

They have a downloader application anyway, I run it when I have to download a large file from there. The site neatly hands over the download to the app and you can continue using the browser without this decryption affecting performance.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by Mike_Walsh » 2021-07-11, 11:34

I have to agree with most comments here.

I've recently opened a MEGA.nz a/c myself (my Google Drive and MediaFire a/cs were getting rather full, and it's all stuff for the Puppy Linux community, which I'm not going to delete.)

Biggest files I've so far worked with were a couple of FPS games in AppImage format.....somewhere around 1-1.2 GB, as I recall. MEGA & browser worked well together, though most of the time I simply copy stuff over to the desktop client & MEGA quietly & unobtrusively syncs it in the background via wget/FTP while I'm doing whatever.

It's much the easiest way of uploading files for me. (I don't need to d/l anything, because the files are always in the local storage directory, so immediately accessible.....and with several TB of local storage, it's simply not an issue.)


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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-07-11, 15:01

Uploading to mega.nz might not be a problem as it won't use that custom system they went for.
Using mega.nz for puppy stuff might be a problem for people downloading it if they use Pale Moon, though.
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Re: Mega.nz download problem

Unread post by KlarkKentThe3rd » 2021-07-13, 06:28

I always use the Mega desktop app for large files, don't see a problem with that.

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