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Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by iBenny » 2021-10-21, 02:48

Hi.

Since I don't know when (latest update ?), the password manager fails to work despite the option to record passwords being checked.

When consulting the password list, it stays empty despite passwords being recorded.

Password user ID keeps empty and... no wonder since the password list is empty.

I used to have dozens of passwords.

key3.db is 16k
logins.json is 104k

Should I substitute them with my FF files:

key3.db (16k)
key4.db (288k)
logins.json (125k) ?

What is the difference between key3 and key4 ?

Here is my Error console status :
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-10-21, 04:54

"User canceled master password entry" -- you have to enter your master password to get access to your stored passwords. If you don't/press cancel on the dialog, then you won't get access. This is by design.
Enter your master password when you are asked for it.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-10-21, 05:47

I'd say the profile is corrupt.
What do you mean "not exactly"? Either there is, or there isn't.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-10-21, 06:01

Well he should definitely have a key4.db in his profile so if that's missing then he either didn't upgrade properly or indeed it's corrupt.

iBenny: if you upgraded from a very old version, read this:
http://developer.palemoon.org/docs/profile-migration/
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by iBenny » 2021-10-21, 15:49

Hi there,

I one time configured a Master PW but unchecked it after a while. You pretend I need it anyway ?

BTW : I sometimes copy/paste my keys/logins files from PM to FF in order to take advantage of all my PW recorded in PM. I might have done the reverse also...

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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-10-21, 16:06

Doesn't removing a master password destroy the entire store?
What do you mean "not exactly"? Either there is, or there isn't.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by iBenny » 2021-10-21, 18:30

Isn't there any data import/export function in PM ? for pwds per instance ?

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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-10-21, 19:41

Only JustOff's extension.
What do you mean "not exactly"? Either there is, or there isn't.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-10-22, 06:28

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
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Doesn't removing a master password destroy the entire store?
No, it will decrypt everything and store it in plaintext.
Same thing when you change your master password: it will decrypt everything then re-encrypt with the new password.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-10-22, 06:30

iBenny wrote:
2021-10-21, 15:49
I one time configured a Master PW but unchecked it after a while. You pretend I need it anyway ?
I'm not pretending anything. I'm just going by the errors in the console which says you cancelled the master password dialog.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by iBenny » 2021-10-22, 22:46

Hi

I created a new profile and noticed it contained a key4.db + cert9.db + logins.json. Fine ! I then copied those files from a FF profile and lo-and-behold... it worked :thumbup: and the newly created profile could display the pwds.

I then copied these same 3 FF files in my default profile and... :thumbdown: NO recognition !? The password manager displays nothing.

Do I need to close PM in order to replace these pwds files or these can be... "hot-swapped" ?

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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-10-22, 22:58

And your new profile is now considered corrupt because you mangled it.
What do you mean "not exactly"? Either there is, or there isn't.
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[SOLVED] Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by iBenny » 2021-10-22, 23:40

Language fixed ! Pwds works now (recopied from FF)...

Not so corrupt isn't it ?
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-10-22, 23:47

That's the thing. Profile corruption can be very subtle and produce unexpected and cryptic glitches and issues. THAT is why we have written about it for years.
What do you mean "not exactly"? Either there is, or there isn't.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by iBenny » 2021-10-23, 01:53

Please mark as [SOLVED] !!!

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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-10-23, 04:57

iBenny wrote:
2021-10-21, 18:30
any data import/export function in PM ? for pwds per instance ?
I use the Password Backup Tool extension.
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Re: Password management glitch in PM 29.4.1

Unread post by iBenny » 2021-10-25, 17:48

Thanks coffeebreak ! :thumbup:

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