remove graphics animations
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This is a self-serve support board for our community. The development team can't provide any support for Windows XP (and compatible versions of Pale Moon for it) any longer.
This is a self-serve support board for our community. The development team can't provide any support for Windows XP (and compatible versions of Pale Moon for it) any longer.
remove graphics animations
google it, there are a lot of humans dont like graphics animations, i am not the only one
the graphics animations gives me like 0.5 seconds delay, before i wanna read somethings like (identity information) left side of address bar, (plug in notification) left side of address bar or (download notification), i must wait 0.5 seconds. i wanna see instant notification, i hate to wait.
second reason is graphics animations causes higher CPU and GPU usage, increase power consumption , and make old computer lags
perhaps graphics animations are looks really cool for most of human, but it annoying me
i have some graphics animations are disabled by about:config
browser.fullscreen.animateUp
browser.panorama.animate_zoom
browser.tabs.animate
layout.css.prefixes.animations
status4evar.download.notify.animate
setted the following two value to false doesnt stop graphics animations
1.browser.tabs.animate after one of multi tabs are closed, the tabs will fit to the tab bar width with animating
2.status4evar.download.notify.animate it gives me download animate still
the graphics animations gives me like 0.5 seconds delay, before i wanna read somethings like (identity information) left side of address bar, (plug in notification) left side of address bar or (download notification), i must wait 0.5 seconds. i wanna see instant notification, i hate to wait.
second reason is graphics animations causes higher CPU and GPU usage, increase power consumption , and make old computer lags
perhaps graphics animations are looks really cool for most of human, but it annoying me
i have some graphics animations are disabled by about:config
browser.fullscreen.animateUp
browser.panorama.animate_zoom
browser.tabs.animate
layout.css.prefixes.animations
status4evar.download.notify.animate
setted the following two value to false doesnt stop graphics animations
1.browser.tabs.animate after one of multi tabs are closed, the tabs will fit to the tab bar width with animating
2.status4evar.download.notify.animate it gives me download animate still
Last edited by people2004 on 2015-07-10, 12:30, edited 4 times in total.
Re: remove graphics animations
okay...i dunno what is the reason. but at least pale moon never crashes and lag so much to me like firefox...fine then
Re: remove graphics animations
I agree, animations are just a pain if they aren't smooth and if they encumber the browser. Both true for Palemoon. All Firefox versions are plagued by this because the UI is tied into how responsive the browser as a whole is. So I disable animations whereever possible. I disabled the findbar animation by adding this to userChrome.css:
By the way, if you use browser.tabs.animate, you also might want to use browser.tabs.resize_immediately, otherwise tab rearranging is still animated. Also, I'm pretty sure layout.css.prefixes.animations pertains to webpage content. I'd leave that enabled just to make sure webpages render correctly.
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findbar {
transition: none !important;
}
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Re: remove graphics animations
I think you're pointing your finger at the wrong party here. Pale Moon's UI animation speed and smoothness is almost entirely determined by how fast the operating system can perform paints, which in turn is heavily dependent on the kernel, graphics drivers, and if hardware acceleration on the graphics card can be used. In the case of NT 5.x operating systems, these are bottlenecks especially on older hardware.
Disabling animations may certainly help in those situations, so Tharn, if you want to share a lineup of what you do to make it more responsive at the cost of animations, that would probably a good guide for people running Pale Moon on particularly old and slow legacy hardware.
I assume you'd also want to disable smooth scrolling - that will have a massive draw on the graphics subsystem in Win XP.
Disabling animations may certainly help in those situations, so Tharn, if you want to share a lineup of what you do to make it more responsive at the cost of animations, that would probably a good guide for people running Pale Moon on particularly old and slow legacy hardware.
I assume you'd also want to disable smooth scrolling - that will have a massive draw on the graphics subsystem in Win XP.
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Re: remove graphics animations
The thing is though, it's not only on legacy hardware. If you're looking at a particularly heavy website for example, the findbar will stutter when it pops out and disappears, tabs will feel slower and may even become unresponsive for a second as the site is loading up. A Firefox dev said, and I'm paraphrasing here, that Firefox UI is never going to be stellar because it's based on XUL - it's being rendered like a website. Also I should say that I'm not bemoaning this, I'm just aware of its limitations. Slow UI is the price we pay for such a customizable browser base, and Palemoon is still the best Firefox out there. Disabling animations doesn't change any of this, but it'll make the browser feel a bit snappier.
As for what I do.. not a lot, really. It's mostly Palemoon Commander settings for various animations, found in the 'User Interface' tab. And running lightweight extensions is a big part of it. NoScript for example absolutely murdered my page loading times back when I still used it, and yet it's still very popular. Compared to what extensions can do to performance, UI tweaks are, as we say in Germany, "Jammern auf hohem Niveau".
As for what I do.. not a lot, really. It's mostly Palemoon Commander settings for various animations, found in the 'User Interface' tab. And running lightweight extensions is a big part of it. NoScript for example absolutely murdered my page loading times back when I still used it, and yet it's still very popular. Compared to what extensions can do to performance, UI tweaks are, as we say in Germany, "Jammern auf hohem Niveau".

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Re: remove graphics animations
I did say "especially on older hardware" - it just compounds the already-existing problem in XP.
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Re: remove graphics animations
findbar {
transition: none !important;
}
the code doesn't work for my pale moon 24.6.2
i have the code saved to PalemoonProfile\indexedDB\chrome\userChrome.css
and then restarted the webbrowser
maybe my pale moon is too old. but i'm not going to download the latest release, i'm waiting for the final release of pale moon for windows experience service pack 3 in july
thanks for browser.tabs.resize_immediately, it stop the tabs rearranging animated. this has annoyed me over 1 year
layout.css.prefixes.animations any suggest webpages for test?
smooth scrolling: this make all webpages looks very lag, when i scrolling up or down, so i do have it disabled
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my brother has a high end PC i7 2600k, nvidia 660ti ,4x2 gb ram, win7 64 bit...but the UI animation still looks so annoying.
UI animation is just a garbage thing, not a feature, useless at all.i wish there will be two diffence version that one of it come without the annoying UI animation things
for firefox or palemoon...i know it's not a possible thing just a impossible wish
transition: none !important;
}
the code doesn't work for my pale moon 24.6.2
i have the code saved to PalemoonProfile\indexedDB\chrome\userChrome.css
and then restarted the webbrowser
maybe my pale moon is too old. but i'm not going to download the latest release, i'm waiting for the final release of pale moon for windows experience service pack 3 in july
thanks for browser.tabs.resize_immediately, it stop the tabs rearranging animated. this has annoyed me over 1 year
layout.css.prefixes.animations any suggest webpages for test?
smooth scrolling: this make all webpages looks very lag, when i scrolling up or down, so i do have it disabled
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my brother has a high end PC i7 2600k, nvidia 660ti ,4x2 gb ram, win7 64 bit...but the UI animation still looks so annoying.
UI animation is just a garbage thing, not a feature, useless at all.i wish there will be two diffence version that one of it come without the annoying UI animation things
for firefox or palemoon...i know it's not a possible thing just a impossible wish
Re: remove graphics animations
It goes in Moonchild Productions\Pale Moon\Profiles\your-profile-here\chrome\userChrome.css, not the indexedDB folder.
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Re: remove graphics animations
Thanks for the info! This makes Pale Moon more responsive on my run down Vista machine.