latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

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latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby mainziman » Tue, 19 Dec 2017, 11:30

Hello,

Palemoon doesn't see my installed Java 1.6u20 (I know it is old and for some reasons it must be exact this release)
how can I get Palemoon to accept Java?

Thanks,
Walter
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby roytam1 » Tue, 19 Dec 2017, 12:00

try setting dom.ipc.plugins.java.enabled = true in about:config ?

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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby mainziman » Tue, 19 Dec 2017, 12:43

no luck

this javascript function

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function checkjava( )
{
   var javaEnabled;
   try
   {
      javaEnabled = navigator.javaEnabled();
   }
   catch( err )
   {
      return 'Not available';
   }
   return javaEnabled ? 'Enabled' : 'Disabled';
}


still returns 'Disabled' ... and in Add-ons still no Java Plug-in
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby roytam1 » Tue, 19 Dec 2017, 14:06

mainziman wrote:no luck

this javascript function

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function checkjava( )
{
   var javaEnabled;
   try
   {
      javaEnabled = navigator.javaEnabled();
   }
   catch( err )
   {
      return 'Not available';
   }
   return javaEnabled ? 'Enabled' : 'Disabled';
}


still returns 'Disabled' ... and in Add-ons still no Java Plug-in

do you have it enabled in java control panel?

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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby mainziman » Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 06:58

yes its enabled
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by the way: with Mozilla Firefox Java plugin works
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby Moonchild » Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 08:14

Do you have the java plugin enabled in your add-on manager?
If you can't set it to "always enable" because it's too old and known to be vulnerable, then it will be forced into "click to play" mode and you can't use it unless you actually embed the plugin and require user interaction (your script requires it to always be enabled).
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby mainziman » Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 08:55

Moonchild wrote:Do you have the java plugin enabled in your add-on manager?

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how?

If you can't set it to "always enable" because it's too old and known to be vulnerable, then it will be forced into "click to play" mode and you can't use it unless you actually embed the plugin and require user interaction (your script requires it to always be enabled).

first i'd like to see the plugin at all ...
it seems as it wouldn't exist
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby Moonchild » Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 12:03

Yeah, make sure the plugin is installed in a location known to the browser, or Pale Moon can't use it.
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby mainziman » Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 12:56

in which location does it have to be, in order to be known by palemoon?
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby KingsMan » Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 16:22

consider upgrading to PM27
here is XP compatible build
https://github.com/Feodor2/Mypal/releases
get newer JRE
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Programmin ... l#download
version 8 and 7 is XP compatible

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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby mainziman » Wed, 20 Dec 2017, 18:39

as I said before, I know its an old release and for some reasons it must be exact this release: 1.6u20
and we are talking about latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby visionhelp » Thu, 04 Jan 2018, 09:59

When I am asked in which folder to install, Java, JRE, I choose the "Programs" folder. In all cases it is enough.

From my current experience of update to Pale Moon to 26.5 (Atom), but I am not sure, whether this is the same problem with Java or JRE, I have to do some settings manual in about:config.
(For Mozilla Add-Ons this setting, for "update Your browser" an other setting.)

If not receiving an answer to this from the Pale Moon forum, I would uninstall both, Java and Pale Moon, and clean all leaves until into the registry.

Then new install. But the follow of the installation could be a solvation.
First Java or first Pale Moon.

One of both COULD be a solvation. I am with You, there should be an easier solution than uninstall and have to try the different possible followings of installations.

(The ´perfect´- better: the best - version of Java for Pale Moon I could miss, too. I am just trying to install Add-Ons from Mozilla, Flash-Player for Facebook, Messenger for Facebook, which is not to install already.
And all Java slows down every browser, the newer the more slow, my experience already years ago, and missing some newer version, I never got a message, a web-site function does not work of a missing Java version. So I am curious about Your version.

And this XP compatible build PM27 I do not understand easy, no, not at all, how to install easy.)
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby visionhelp » Fri, 02 Feb 2018, 15:25

mainziman wrote:Palemoon doesn't see my installed Java 1.6u20 (I know it is old and for some reasons it must be exact this release)


Hi mainziman,
would You like to tell me the special about Java 1.6u20?
(Perhaps a link for a download, too, thanks.)
I want to uninstall my version 7 or 8 and want to have only the really needed.
.NET Framework - ALL - already I did uninstall, because of a strange thing happened only to a Screen-Shot function, which did not work properly anymore. And after uninstalling .NET Framework it all works very well again, and the speed of the XP: only wonderful.
And this program, which wants a version .NET Framework, hm, let´s see, until now I did not need to re-install only one version of .NET Framework for any special program this as environment needed.

Thanks.

Could You solve Your problem?
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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby dapgo » Mon, 05 Feb 2018, 13:07

The Java 6 you want to use has to be of the same bits than Palemoon (32or 64bits) otherwise PM will not see Java.
On the other hand as far as I known Firefox "Plugins" detects the latest java installed in the system, so supposing that you have several versions installed and active (Control panel) you should see the lastest installed in your system but not necessarily the higher version



mainziman wrote:
Moonchild wrote:Do you have the java plugin enabled in your add-on manager?

Image
how?

If you can't set it to "always enable" because it's too old and known to be vulnerable, then it will be forced into "click to play" mode and you can't use it unless you actually embed the plugin and require user interaction (your script requires it to always be enabled).

first i'd like to see the plugin at all ...
it seems as it wouldn't exist

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Re: latest Palemoon f. Atom/WinXP 26.5 and Java?

Unread postby visionhelp » Mon, 05 Feb 2018, 21:43

"Windows Presentation Foundation" is the name of the Java plug-in. OK. Thanks for this info.

I never had this plug-in in any PaleMoon isntalled available. But without problems, it appears.


It is about Java 1.6u20, I understand.


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