Flash Plug-in

General discussion and compatibility support about browser plug-ins.
(e.g. Adobe Flash, Java plugin, authentication plugins, Unity)

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Moonraker » 2020-11-18, 21:34

Problem is that adobe have decomissioned the archives so only the latest possibly time bombed version is available as a plugin.
maybe a download site is hosting older versions..pre v32 to be safe.
Adobe are hellbent flash is being shown the door.Insane as HTML5 and webgl gaming is crap in my opinion.

Give the open source community flash and let us enjoy the decades of content.
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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by ron_1 » 2020-11-18, 23:35

I checked two old programs downloading sites, but they drank the Kool-Aid and have removed Flash.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by coffeebreak » 2020-11-19, 00:16

For now at least, archived Flash Player installers can still be downloaded via archive.org:

https://web.archive.org/web/20200718192527/https://helpx.adobe.com/flash-player/kb/archived-flash-player-versions.html

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by SergeantZombo » 2020-11-23, 06:58

Speaking of Open Source flash, have you guys checked out Lightspark?

https://lightspark.github.io/

It looks promising.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Moonchild » 2020-11-23, 08:00

Lightspark is still in alpha state, it currently implements around 76% of the Flash APIs.
Which is about the same level any Open Source flash player project is at, because it's all reverse-engineering based. And without the additional 24% it'll simply not do.
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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Daikun » 2020-11-25, 07:47

SergeantZombo wrote:
2020-11-23, 06:58
Speaking of Open Source flash, have you guys checked out Lightspark?

https://lightspark.github.io/

It looks promising.
Just tried it out.
It doesn't work.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Moonraker » 2020-11-25, 09:41

the adobe flash projector does not work with me either on my linux.
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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by brokenweb » 2020-11-27, 21:51

Sorry for the late reply.
Pentium4User wrote:
2020-11-18, 05:21
Then please show the full output of the apt command you ran.
I ran it again to get the same result. Here:

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Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  debconf debconf-i18n libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 python3-debconf
  python3-distro-info python3-distupgrade python3-update-manager
  ubuntu-release-upgrader-core update-manager-core update-notifier-common
Suggested packages:
  debconf-doc debconf-utils libterm-readline-gnu-perl libnet-ldap-perl
  libqtgui4-perl libqtcore4-perl x-ttcidfont-conf ttf-mscorefonts-installer
  ttf-bitstream-vera | ttf-dejavu ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs python3-launchpadlib
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  flashplugin-installer libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 python3-debconf
  python3-distro-info python3-distupgrade python3-update-manager
  ubuntu-release-upgrader-core update-manager-core update-notifier-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  debconf debconf-i18n
2 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 621 not upgraded.
Need to get 139 kB/730 kB of archives.
After this operation, 3,162 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Ign:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 python3-distupgrade all 1:18.04.38
Ign:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 ubuntu-release-upgrader-core all 1:18.04.38
Ign:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 flashplugin-installer amd64 32.0.0.414ubuntu0.18.04.1
Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 python3-distupgrade all 1:18.04.38
  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
Err:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 ubuntu-release-upgrader-core all 1:18.04.38
  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
Err:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 flashplugin-installer amd64 32.0.0.414ubuntu0.18.04.1
  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-release-upgrader/python3-distupgrade_18.04.38_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-release-upgrader/ubuntu-release-upgrader-core_18.04.38_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/f/flashplugin-nonfree/flashplugin-installer_32.0.0.414ubuntu0.18.04.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
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If your Debian-type package manager can't (or won't) do the job for you, you can simply install it yourself. Just make yourself "root" and use your file manager to create the directories you need -- or, if you prefer, use 'mkdir' in the terminal to create them. Then, copy over the file(s) you need into the appropriate directories you just created, making sure the .so file is executable. Pale Moon will detect the plug-in and you can enable it in the browser itself.
It doesn't look like Mint 19 has any way to login as root from the splash screen. What permission am I going to have to alter, and how do I alter it?
Moonraker wrote:
2020-11-25, 09:41
the adobe flash projector does not work with me either on my linux.
That sounds useful. Is there an official download page still available? Link?

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by moonbat » 2020-11-28, 03:42

brokenweb wrote:
2020-11-27, 21:51
It doesn't look like Mint 19 has any way to login as root from the splash screen. What permission am I going to have to alter, and how do I alter it?
You don't have to do that, just open a terminal and type 'sudo su', then enter your password when prompted and you'll be in a root shell. All commands from here can run as root.
If you want to open a GUI program as root, for example using xed to edit a system configuration file, type

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xed admin:////root/somefile
and enter the password of your currently logged in user account when prompted.
Note the prefix is admin:/// with 3 slashes, and then the path to the file in question (/root/somefile).
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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Pentium4User » 2020-11-28, 06:35

Show the output of

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cat /etc/apt/sources.list
cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
sudo apt update

ping 9.9.9.9 -c4
ping 2a01:4f8:c2c:628f::1 -c4
nslookup test.de
Powerline adapters (dLAN) hardly interfere shortwave radio, so stop using them.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Moonraker » 2020-11-28, 06:55

I have managed to find an older version of the flash projector and it works perfectly on my puppylinux machine. :thumbup:
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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by brokenweb » 2020-11-28, 20:45

moonbat wrote:
2020-11-28, 03:42
brokenweb wrote:
2020-11-27, 21:51
It doesn't look like Mint 19 has any way to login as root from the splash screen. What permission am I going to have to alter, and how do I alter it?
You don't have to do that, just open a terminal and type 'sudo su', then enter your password when prompted and you'll be in a root shell. All commands from here can run as root.
If you want to open a GUI program as root, for example using xed to edit a system configuration file, type

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xed admin:////root/somefile
and enter the password of your currently logged in user account when prompted.
Note the prefix is admin:/// with 3 slashes, and then the path to the file in question (/root/somefile).
Okay, but what are the correct permissions to set for libpepflashplayer.so to get it working? You didn't answer the whole question.
Pentium4User wrote:
2020-11-28, 06:35
Show the output of

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cat /etc/apt/sources.list
cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
sudo apt update

ping 9.9.9.9 -c4
ping 2a01:4f8:c2c:628f::1 -c4
nslookup test.de

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$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#deb cdrom:[Linux Mint 19.1 _Tessa_ - Release amd64 20181217]/ bionic contrib main non-free
$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*
#
# NordVPN releases, stable
#
deb https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable main# Do not edit this file manually, use Software Sources instead.

deb http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa main upstream import backport #id:linuxmint_main

deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports main restricted universe multiverse

deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic-security main restricted universe multiverse
deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ bionic partner$ sudo apt update
Ign:1 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa InRelease
Get:2 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease [10.2 kB]           
Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security InRelease [88.7 kB]    
Get:4 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa Release [24.1 kB]                    
Get:5 https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable InRelease [6,174 B]   
Hit:6 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease                        
Get:7 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa Release.gpg [819 B]            
Get:8 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates InRelease [88.7 kB]      
Get:9 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu bionic/partner amd64 Packages [2,284 B]
Get:10 http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu bionic/partner i386 Packages [2,292 B]
Get:11 https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable/main amd64 Packages [4,299 B]
Get:12 https://repo.nordvpn.com/deb/nordvpn/debian stable/main i386 Packages [4,311 B]
Get:13 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports InRelease [74.6 kB]   
Get:14 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main i386 Packages [861 kB]
Get:15 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main amd64 Packages [1,425 kB]
Get:16 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main Translation-en [280 kB]
Get:17 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa/main amd64 Packages [14.2 kB]       
Get:18 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [49.0 kB]
Get:19 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/restricted amd64 Packages [173 kB]
Get:20 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/restricted Translation-en [22.7 kB]
Get:21 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe i386 Packages [967 kB]
Get:22 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa/main i386 Packages [13.6 kB]        
Get:23 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa/upstream amd64 Packages [37.3 kB]   
Get:24 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe amd64 Packages [1,089 kB]
Get:25 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 Packages [1,761 kB]
Get:26 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe Translation-en [243 kB]
Get:27 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [59.5 kB]
Get:28 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/multiverse amd64 Packages [13.3 kB]
Get:29 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/multiverse i386 Packages [4,808 B]
Get:30 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/multiverse Translation-en [2,996 B]
Get:31 http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-security/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [2,464 B]
Get:32 http://packages.linuxmint.com tessa/upstream i386 Packages [37.4 kB]    
Get:33 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main i386 Packages [1,162 kB]
Get:34 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main Translation-en [373 kB]
Get:35 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [295 kB]
Get:36 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/restricted amd64 Packages [196 kB]
Get:37 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/restricted i386 Packages [17.3 kB]
Get:38 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/restricted Translation-en [26.3 kB]
Get:39 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe i386 Packages [1,547 kB]
Get:40 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe amd64 Packages [1,693 kB]
Get:41 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe Translation-en [356 kB]
Get:42 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [288 kB]
Get:43 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 Packages [36.1 kB]
Get:44 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse i386 Packages [14.4 kB]
Get:45 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse Translation-en [7,308 B]
Get:46 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [2,468 B]
Get:47 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-backports/universe amd64 DEP-11 Metadata [9,288 B]
Fetched 13.4 MB in 3s (4,748 kB/s)                                    
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
635 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
$ ping 9.9.9.9 -c4
PING 9.9.9.9 (9.9.9.9) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 9.9.9.9: icmp_seq=1 ttl=56 time=20.2 ms
64 bytes from 9.9.9.9: icmp_seq=2 ttl=56 time=24.6 ms
64 bytes from 9.9.9.9: icmp_seq=3 ttl=56 time=15.5 ms
64 bytes from 9.9.9.9: icmp_seq=4 ttl=56 time=23.3 ms

--- 9.9.9.9 ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 3005ms
rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 15.569/20.960/24.681/3.515 ms
$ ping 2a01:4f8:c2c:628f::1 -c4
connect: Network is unreachable
$ nslookup test.de
Server:		127.0.0.53
Address:	127.0.0.53#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:	test.de
Address: 52.137.38.226
Moonraker wrote:
2020-11-28, 06:55
I have managed to find an older version of the flash projector and it works perfectly on my puppylinux machine. :thumbup:
Where are you finding these official flash projectors? Please be cooperative and share the links.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Moonraker » 2020-11-28, 21:39

https://forum.puppylinux.com/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=1359
scroll down to ozsouth's post and 2 puppy pet packages are available..works a treat on my xenial puppy 32bit.
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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by moonbat » 2020-11-29, 00:15

brokenweb wrote:
2020-11-28, 20:45
Okay, but what are the correct permissions to set for libpepflashplayer.so to get it working?
755 like every other executable. That's

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sudo chmod 755 /full/path/to/libpepflashplayer.so
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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Pentium4User » 2020-11-29, 07:15

You package manager should now work, you can now try again to install flash from the repo:

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sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
Please show the full output of this, including the command you ran.
Powerline adapters (dLAN) hardly interfere shortwave radio, so stop using them.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by brokenweb » 2020-12-04, 09:49

Pentium4User wrote:
2020-11-29, 07:15
You package manager should now work, you can now try again to install flash from the repo:

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sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
Please show the full output of this, including the command you ran.
Still no good.

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~$ sudo apt install flashplugin-installer
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
The following additional packages will be installed:
  debconf debconf-i18n libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 python3-debconf
  python3-distro-info python3-distupgrade python3-update-manager
  ubuntu-release-upgrader-core update-manager-core update-notifier-common
Suggested packages:
  debconf-doc debconf-utils libterm-readline-gnu-perl libnet-ldap-perl
  libqtgui4-perl libqtcore4-perl x-ttcidfont-conf ttf-mscorefonts-installer
  ttf-bitstream-vera | ttf-dejavu ttf-xfree86-nonfree xfs python3-launchpadlib
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  flashplugin-installer libpango1.0-0 libpangox-1.0-0 python3-debconf
  python3-distro-info python3-distupgrade python3-update-manager
  ubuntu-release-upgrader-core update-manager-core update-notifier-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  debconf debconf-i18n
2 upgraded, 10 newly installed, 0 to remove and 506 not upgraded.
Need to get 138 kB/729 kB of archives.
After this operation, 3,162 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
Ign:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 python3-distupgrade all 1:18.04.40
Ign:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 ubuntu-release-upgrader-core all 1:18.04.40
Get:3 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/multiverse amd64 flashplugin-installer amd64 32.0.0.453ubuntu0.18.04.1 [6,612 B]
Err:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 python3-distupgrade all 1:18.04.40
  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
Err:2 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic-updates/main amd64 ubuntu-release-upgrader-core all 1:18.04.40
  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
Fetched 6,612 B in 1s (12.8 kB/s)
E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-release-upgrader/python3-distupgrade_18.04.40_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
E: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/u/ubuntu-release-upgrader/ubuntu-release-upgrader-core_18.04.40_all.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.152 80]
E: Unable to fetch some archives, maybe run apt-get update or try with --fix-missing?
Honestly I'd rather be able to install it from the zips I downloaded, but I tried moving it to multiple folder locations and setting their permissions like moonbat recommended and they STILL don't work. I tried:
/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libpepflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/nsbrowser/plugins/libpepflashplayer.so
/usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libpepflashplayer.so

None of them work. God everything about Linsux is such a dumpster fire. What I wouldn't for a good 64-bit Win7 disk.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Pentium4User » 2020-12-04, 09:57

Please open http://91.189.88.152:80 in your browser and show us what you see.
Either your package manager is broken or your internet connection is being manipulated, maybe by a transparent proxy.
Powerline adapters (dLAN) hardly interfere shortwave radio, so stop using them.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by adesh » 2020-12-04, 12:04

Maybe try "apt-get update" first?

Pentim4User, python3-distupgrade_18.04.40_all.deb is not available on the server but python3-distupgrade_18.04.41_all.deb is.

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flash EOL

Post by mtedu » 2020-12-11, 14:01

In Pale Moon's roadmap page it is stated that there will be full support for NPAPI plug-ins like Flash and Java, also after EoL of Adobe's plugin product line.

However, it seems that Adobe's recent plugins have a timestamp that do not let browsers use it after 12/1/2021. This can be confirmed by changing one's computer date and trying to access flash content online/offline via Pale Moon. This occurs even if older installers are used (as it is suggested in another thread) or even the installer that Adobe suggest via prompt to use in order to keep using flash after its EOL.

Is there any solution planned in a future release of Pale Moon?

Given that there is still a lot of useful educational material still in flash, I would really appreciate an official reply. I thank you in advance.

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Re: Flash Plug-in

Post by Moonchild » 2020-12-11, 19:12

mtedu wrote:
2020-12-11, 14:01
Is there any solution planned in a future release of Pale Moon?
We can't do anything about any time bomb Adobe has baked into their binaries.
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