multi containers and priv8, fork and alternatives

[dapgo]

Time ago I had to stop using the Firefox multi-account containers feature on Basilisk, but fortunately then I discovered the old "Priv8" extension as a solution for PM and Basilisk.


Now my questions are:

• What has happened with Priov8 fork being developed by @moonbat https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=26420&p=210981&hilit=priv8#p210981 link

• Any tip to exchange data associated to priv8 with to a modern Firefox with multi-account containers

[andyprough]

There was some discussion about this last March: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=29559

[moonbat]

What has happened with Priov8 fork being developed by @moonba

Haven't had the time to fully test it, it's mostly working but a few features aren't there yet.

[dapgo]

There was some discussion about this last March: viewtopic.php?f=46&t=29559

Yes, i was involved in that thread but is now is locked.
Also now I am also interested in how/where priv8 stores its info to move data between priv8 on PM and Multiaccount on Firefox.

What has happened with Priov8 fork being developed by @moonba

Haven't had the time to fully test it, it's mostly working but a few features aren't there yet.

Maybe you should make your draft version public and others can test and submit feedback/issues.

[moonbat]

Yeah, I have a repository but haven't synced from my local. In the meantime, priv8 still works fine on Pale Moon. My fork introduces UI improvements, else the functionality is meant to be the same.

[andyprough]

In the meantime, priv8 still works fine on Pale Moon.

I'm trying priv8 for the first time now. Seems to function alright, are you satisfied that it's providing a decent sandbox?

[moonbat]

It does the job..you can isolate sites in sandboxes marked by color (it will color the borders of the sandboxed tab so you know you're in one) and it's useful if you have multiple accounts on the same service (a bit redundant in the case of a few like Google that now let you be signed into multiple accounts and switch between them).

My fork was to be far more ambitious in terms of browser UI integration and for permanently associating a given site to a given sandbox so that it will always open in that sandbox no matter whether you click a link to it or open it manually. That isn't currently possible in priv8; you can rightclick on a tab and switch the page to a given sandbox but not preload it in one.

[andyprough]

My fork was to be far more ambitious in terms of browser UI integration and for permanently associating a given site to a given sandbox so that it will always open in that sandbox no matter whether you click a link to it or open it manually

Yeah, that auto-sandboxing is the most obvious thing missing with priv8 right now, although it's functional as-is. I was just wondering if you were satisfied with the sandbox itself, but it sounds like it works for you and I can't find any flaws or leaks so far. Good enough, thanks.

[moonbat]

Tbh the one thing I can't stand is the horrible webpage style UI (which is the only option you have for extensions in ChromeZilla land). It's what made me fork Pure URL and create PMPlayer. The latter was inspired from a restartless extension that only targeted youtube 'Youtube Video Player Pop Out' on CAA. It was hopelessly buggy, and I much rather prefer proper XUL extensions to restartless ones that use Javascript to create the extension UI itself instead of separating it out with XUL.

XUL extension development is elegant - full separation of UI and event handling/extension logic is possible though few legacy extension authors followed it and just hacked out some unmaintainable mess.

[andyprough]

Tbh the one thing I can't stand is the horrible webpage style UI (which is the only option you have for extensions in ChromeZilla land).

Yes, it's the one thing that is unpleasant with priv8, but after setting up the sandboxes the only UI interaction I need to do is with the little context sub-menu at the top of the tabs, and of course that sub-menu is XUL so it looks fine.

[dapgo]

Tbh the one thing I can't stand is the horrible webpage style UI (which is the only option you have for extensions in ChromeZilla land).

Yes, it's the one thing that is unpleasant with priv8, but after setting up the sandboxes the only UI interaction I need to do is with the little context sub-menu at the top of the tabs, and of course that sub-menu is XUL so it looks fine.

for me is very unpleasant and bad in terms of usability, the way of showing the "container" in use, as it is just a narrow line of a specific color. But no text, so you need to pay attention to the line and remember colors...

I think this visual part can be improved

[moonbat]

I think this visual part can be improved

That would come much later, after the fork's basic functionality works consistently

[andyprough]

for me is very unpleasant and bad in terms of usability, the way of showing the "container" in use, as it is just a narrow line of a specific color. But no text, so you need to pay attention to the line and remember colors...

It works for me, the title of the tab has the container color. It's similar to how the multicontainer add-on works on Firefox, where there's a thin strip of color at the top of the tab. I don't think you would want to add much text (if any) or then you'd be crowding the information on the tabs.

[dapgo]

for me is very unpleasant and bad in terms of usability, the way of showing the "container" in use, as it is just a narrow line of a specific color. But no text, so you need to pay attention to the line and remember colors...

It works for me, the title of the tab has the container color. It's similar to how the multicontainer add-on works on Firefox, where there's a thin strip of color at the top of the tab. I don't think you would want to add much text (if any) or then you'd be crowding the information on the tabs.

Interesting info because the title of my tab has not a different color, i need to check the console and other extension using tabs

[andyprough]

Interesting info because the title of my tab has not a different color, i need to check the console and other extension using tabs

Oh really? See mine are very clearly different colors.

Screenshot from 2024-03-14 09-39-33.png

I'm not using any theme right now, that might be the reason it is so clear. Maybe if you are using a dark theme or something it washes out the tab coloring?

[dapgo]

Man in black got a color dress.
I disabled several extensions that i am not using lately, and color appears.
I suppose the cause was "colorful tabs" extension, a great extension for productivity that would be perfect if it were supporting regexp rules to assign colors