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Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by sIDcORK » 2013-08-21, 13:05

This update doesn't work with Pale Moon 20.3

Keep Ghostery Version 2.9.6 available on the Mozilla site here https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... /versions/

Presumably this is another Libraries thing and will work in Pale Moon 24(?).

dallas7

Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by dallas7 » 2013-08-21, 18:13

Had you reported which Windows OS and Pale Moon (32, 64, installed, portable?) versions you're running your posting would probably have some value. However, we can go with "doesn't work."

I've observed failures in my situation with Ghostery 5.0.0 .1 and .3 with PM 20.3-x64 portable under Win7x64 and . The icon has vanished from the Toolbar and is absent from Customize... Judging by the postings at their Getsatisfaction Community, I'm not alone. For some it's broken in one way or another.

There is no longer an Options button in the Extensions' Add-ons Manager though I have not been able to get any answer in Ghostery's Community if this is as it should be. Nor did the Tools > Options > Ghostery show up on my systems.
Aug 22 Edit: In another posting unrelated to my inquiry, Ghostery's Community verified only the Disable and Remove buttons are present.

I've been using Ghostery since 2008 and I think with this latest release the relationship has come to an end. It has become bloated, overly aggressive in its blocking and often eats up gobs of memory (over a gigabyte at times) which never bothered me too much considering the hardware I run.

For a couple of weeks I've been successfully and quite happily running Disconnect. It's effective and light.
https://www.disconnect.me/
As of this posting, it's not yet available from addons.mozilla.org. I have observed v3.4.0 update to 3.4.1 via the Add-ons Manager. For me it's a keeper.

An alternative is Abine's DoNotTrackMe which I played with a few months ago and it's not as effective as Disconnect or Ghostery. It is available from Mozilla.

Aug 24 edit: The AVG Anti-virus folks have a free Do Not Track extension for Mozilla. Search for "AVG" at the Mozilla add-ons site.

For those wishing to stay with Ghostery 2.9.6, I did verify with the developers that the bug lists will continue to support this version regardless of the progression of v5. Well, until it doesn't...
"The bug list format hasn't changed since Ghostery 2.6, and the Ghostery products for all other browsers depend on it as well. It's designed to permit extensibility; products will just ignore key-value pairs they don't understand. Bug updates quietly ended a few months ago for Ghostery 2.5.3 and prior (which used a different, less-efficient mechanism), and hardly anyone noticed. In short, you can continue using 2.9.6; you just won't have access to features introduced in later versions. You don't need to worry until Firefox 26 comes out: that's the point at which Mozilla plans to obsolete everything prior to Firefox 24 (implicitly placing 2.9.6 on the endangered species list)."
And straight from the horse's mouth:
"The list is shared between many editions of Ghostery, and as long as its there, all new updates are pushed to everyone."
https://getsatisfaction.com/ghostery/to ... _supported

FYI:
https://windowssecrets.com/newsletter/a ... -trackers/
Note: "Ghostery...won’t work with...64-bit Windows." I emailed the author to express my surprise that after almost two years Ghostery (2.x) has suddenly stopped working on my two Win7x64 systems. The article remains uncorrected.

Cheers :!:
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Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by Blacklab » 2013-08-21, 23:31

Ghostery 5.0.3 certainly doesn't work at all with Pale Moon 20.3 - frankly I'm also struggling with it on Firefox 23.0.1 - IMO old v2.9.6 works much better!

Haven't had much luck with any new Ghostery major versions this year! Longstanding problem with Ghostery-IE 3.x still being blocked/removed as an "Adware.Crossid" threat detected by Norton (and other) AV suites. Tickets in with both Evidon and Symantec have failed to resolve or even properly explain the situation after many months. Symantec say Ghostery-IE's 3.x installer meets their criteria as a threat and they are not planning to change their position - Evidon don't care to explain why = stalemate + concern? At least with Pale Moon/Firefox the old version Ghostery v2.9.6 is easy and safe to obtain direct from AMO (via link in sIDcORK's OP). Finding a copy of the previous Ghostery-IE version, let alone a safe download site, is a real problem. Relieved to find a copy on my old XP machine. The old Ghostery-IE version seems to work well and receives regular tracker list updates as expected.

Agree with dallas7 - it's probably time to start looking for a Ghostery replacement. Will give Disconnect a try-out. :)

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Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by dallas7 » 2013-08-22, 20:11

Yeah, Symantec has had it in for them. Norton DNS blacklisted their previous Better Advertising domain some time ago. Anything parked on a betteradvertising server is blocked, like Ghostery's Blog at purplebox. Ironically, evidon.com and other ghostery.com are OK. While DNS is my only experience, I'm sure that policy migrates to other protocols within their AV and IS products. Further, anyone who locksteps with Symantec will present similar decorum, i.e. Browser Defender.
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Since I'm already slightly off-topic I might as well mention that I also run Adblock Plus with subscriptions to EasyList, EasyPrivacy and Fanboy's Social Blocking List. Browsing the Internet is extremely quiet over here. Of course, palemoon.org is globally whitelisted.
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Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by fixanoid » 2013-08-22, 22:05

Pale Moon has issues with running Jetpack based addons. This issue needs to be resolved between Pale Moon and Jetpack developers, there is nothing that Ghostery team can do for this issue.

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Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by Moonchild » 2013-08-22, 22:35

fixanoid wrote:Pale Moon has issues with running Jetpack based addons. This issue needs to be resolved between Pale Moon and Jetpack developers, there is nothing that Ghostery team can do for this issue.
I'm working on resolving all add-on SDK issues in the next major version of Pale Moon, and that includes an issue in the add-on SDK loader that won't accept re-branded browsers (which is usually the issue, since extensions on the most commonly used versions of the SDK included will only run on Firefox and Fennec, and nothing with a different appname)
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Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by Lootyhoof » 2013-08-24, 11:16

To be honest, I'd always recommend using Adblock with the Fanboy's Ultimate List rather than Ghostery. I've found, generally, that Ghostery is more of a performance hog.

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Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by dallas7 » 2013-08-24, 18:39

@Lootyhoof
There's no arguing Ghostery is a resource hog and is a serious drag on any system running a CPU having a PassMark of less than 3000.

Fanboy Adblock Plus subscriptions do take care of plenty and as reported in my post above I run the setup you describe. Like you, I always recommend that.

But I can assure you there is an ungodly amount of stuff left to snag by the likes of Ghostery, Disconnect and DoNotTrackMe. Confirm this yourself by watching the detection count in Disconnect with AB+ enabled and disabled and comparing Blockable items as well.

FYI - Fanboy and EasyList were merged in May.
https://easylist.adblockplus.org/blog/2 ... boy-s-list
"Fanboy, who has many years of experience in ad blocking, is a gain for the Easy project and will from now on be the main author."
This is where one should now subscribe to AB+ lists:
https://adblockplus.org/en/features

Disconnect runs so light, smooth and effectively, I don't see any reason why I should run 2.9.6 or use 5.0.x once the new SDK is implemented. In fact, I'm glad the latter's failure in Pale Moon brought my attention to Disconnect - I would have switched long ago.

Cheers.
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Re: Ghostery 5.0.3

Post by dallas7 » 2013-08-24, 18:41

Moonchild wrote:I'm working on resolving all add-on SDK issues in the next major version of Pale Moon
Thanks :!: and Good Luck with that.