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Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by Mæstro » 2023-02-25, 15:42

The idea for this post had come as NoScript happened to come up in a mundane technical support request. Need it be said, the goal is not to beg that the restrictions surrounding NoScript be lifted. As the title hints, my purpose in what follows is unofficial, diagnostic research. In the ideal case, this research would uncover what triggers the bugs in NoScript that cause Pale Moon to crash, some kindly add-on developer would patch these bugs, this patched NoScript could be tested and found to play nicely with the browser and it could be rehabilitated. I am under no delusions about this fairy godprogrammer coming, yet I believe this research worthwhile. My hope is that, if we cannot mend them, we can at least identify why NoScript fails for some and works well for others.
※Please note that this investigation is NOT endorsed by the Pale Moon development team and any participation would be at your own risk, and you are advised to create a backup profile before any tinkering with extensions that could damage it.

If you are already an active NoScript user, that is, you use NoScript in your ordinary Pale Moon profile and have never encountered any weird behaviour like system crashes, then I would request you comment here with the clipboard information from about:support, describing your system, and attach a file with your present NoScript settings. (Uploading NoScript setting files is apparently forbidden.) For example, mine are:
Allgemeine Informationen
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Name: Pale Moon
Version: 32.0.1 (64-bit)
Build ID: 20230223003712
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:6.0) Goanna/20230223 PaleMoon/32.0.1
Betriebssystem: Linux 4.19.0-23-amd64
Abgesicherter Modus: false

Erweiterungen
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Version: 1.0
Aktiviert: true
ID: {92FCD001-8329-489A-8FEA-10BC98E0435F}

Name: Aviary Add-ons Manager
Version: 1.0.1
Aktiviert: true
ID: aviary-addons-manager@addons.palemoon.org

Name: Cookie Masters
Version: 3.2.0
Aktiviert: true
ID: {a04a71f3-ce74-4134-8f86-fae693b19e44}

Name: Decentraleyes
Version: 1.4.3
Aktiviert: true
ID: jid1-BoFifL9Vbdl2zQ@jetpack

Name: FoxReplace
Version: 0.17.3
Aktiviert: true
ID: fox@replace.fx

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Version: 1.2.3
Aktiviert: true
ID: greedycache@Off.JustOff

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Version: 2.0.3.7
Aktiviert: true
ID: {4a313247-8330-4a81-948e-b79936516f78}

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Version: 5.1.9
Aktiviert: true
ID: {73a6fe31-595d-460b-a920-fcc0f8843232}

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Version: 1.26
Aktiviert: true
ID: palefill@addons.martoks-place.de

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Version: 3.3.3
Aktiviert: true
ID: pure-url@palemoon

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Version: 1.1.1-signed.1-signed
Aktiviert: true
ID: randomWiki@penzil.com
※A friend has modified this extension so it gives random images on an anime site I like, not Wikipedia pages.

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Version: 0.5.32
Aktiviert: true
ID: rpcontinued@requestpolicy.org

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Version: 6.2.0
Aktiviert: true
ID: {0daf556d-70de-4b15-a90f-b30395bd9c22}

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Version: 1.16.4.30
Aktiviert: true
ID: uBlock0@raymondhill.net

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Aktiviert: true
ID: url-rewriter@papush

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Version: 2.0.3
Aktiviert: false
ID: ca-archive@Off.JustOff

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Version: 1.8.3
Aktiviert: false
ID: personas@christopher.beard

Name: Sasuga
Version: 2.2.1
Aktiviert: false
ID: sasuga@vannilla.org

Grafik
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Allgemeine Merkmale
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GPU-beschleunigte Fenster: 0/1 Basic (OMTC)
Asynchrones Wischen und Zoomen: nichts
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security.OCSP.require: true
services.sync.declinedEngines:
storage.vacuum.last.index: 1
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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by Kris_88 » 2023-02-26, 14:16

This extension contains about 1 megabyte of scripts, including minified ones. As for me, this is too much for its functionality. There is nothing to investigate. It needs to be rewritten from scratch. Only then it will be possible to trust.

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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by Mæstro » 2023-02-26, 16:27

Call me curious. A(n) (in)famous extension that agrees with some, but has brought many others woe, is fascinating to me. Why should some find it reliable, while it breaks the browser for others? In my original post, I had tried to disclaim any serious expectation that anything practical would become of this. This is really for the science of it.
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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by gepus » 2023-02-27, 09:47

Off-topic:
Kris_88 wrote:
2023-02-26, 14:16
This extension contains about 1 megabyte of scripts, including minified ones.
It needs to be rewritten from scratch. Only then it will be possible to trust.
Also considering past reputation of Mr Maone. ;)

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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by therube » 2023-02-27, 16:31

1 megabyte of scripts
And that means just what?
including minified ones
Care to explain, just where these are?

I don't typically install NoScript in PM, any longer, but in earlier days, I always did, & never had any issues.

On my end, I made some changes ages ago to NoScript.xpi.
Changes to chrome.manifest (from NoScript 2.9.5.3) & install.rdf.
Removed bootstrap.js, & /webextension/.
And zip'd up the contents of /chrome/ into noscript.jar.
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And I do use, have always used, NoScript in SeaMonkey, & again never had any issues.
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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by Kris_88 » 2023-02-27, 16:54

therube wrote:
2023-02-27, 16:31
And that means just what?
In my opinion, this is too much for its functionality. This means that the extension is overloaded with an extra code, which, in particular, is a potential source of errors. I don't know where it is used there, maybe it also knows how to cook coffee ...
therube wrote:
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Care to explain, just where these are?
Inside xpi, of course.
noscript-5.1.9.xpi:\chrome\content\noscript\*.*
953721 bytes in 73 files
antlr.js - minified script, 67189 bytes.
You can look inside the archive, so why are you asking?

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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by therube » 2023-02-27, 17:03

Yes, I saw antlr.js (in particular).
Is that considered "minified" or a (single, essentially) line of not-prettified code?

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Unread post by Kris_88 » 2023-02-27, 17:10

therube wrote:
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Is that considered "minified" or a (single, essentially) line of not-prettified code?
Doesn't matter. The programmer did not write like that, definitely.

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2023-02-27, 19:02

I never really looked at the guts of the extension. Just had a peek now. Definitely seems to be way too heavy -- it also includes telemetry data gathering, and seems to have several modules in there that mess around with garbage collection (which wouldn't surprise me if that is part of the stability issues). Certainly seems to do a lot of things unrelated to script blocking and making calls to browser components and APIs that are potentially dangerous to do.
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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

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Off-topic:
The ideal extension Tor gets shipped with ... :lol:

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Off-topic:
Ever since they killed Vidalia from the Tor bundle, it's been all downhill
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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by Blacklab » 2023-02-27, 21:47

Hmm... never had a problem running any version of NoScript on any browser in >12 years use... no issues... full stop. :D :thumbup:

I've installed the latest possible NoScript version on every browser I've ever used since approx 2011... no crashes, no lock-ups, zilch.
No problems using the Release Candidate (RC) versions of NoScript either. (The RC versions are easy auto-update installs especially on current Mozilla-based browsers; Firefox, Firefox ESR, and LibreWolf: https://noscript.net/getit/)

Maybe I'm just lucky or I'm simply not a 'power' user stressing either the browser engine or the NoScript extension? I don't have complex browsing requirements... few pages open at once, few addons installed, no themes, only a few UI modifications made via CSS. Otherwise known as the 'KISS' principle - Keep It simple stupid.

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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

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Moonchild wrote:
2023-02-27, 19:02
I never really looked at the guts of the extension. Just had a peek now. Definitely seems to be way too heavy -- it also includes telemetry data gathering, and seems to have several modules in there that mess around with garbage collection (which wouldn't surprise me if that is part of the stability issues). Certainly seems to do a lot of things unrelated to script blocking and making calls to browser components and APIs that are potentially dangerous to do.

Funny thing, Hyperbola took a bite into noscript also at one point and disabled a lot of that garbage.

If what you say is true, its possible that more might have been missed.

If this is your reason for not supporting noscript, you are 100% on target.

It seems ematrix very well might have been what I was looking for before.

So thank you, for convincing me to ditch noscript.

I used to use noscript nonstop from even back in the XP era when I found out about firefox + firefox addons.

I wish I had known that the author did this so long ago.

Helps me understand why you had such dislike of it. Even if those reasons weren't yours.

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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

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Blacklab wrote:
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Maybe I'm just lucky or I'm simply not a 'power' user stressing either the browser engine or the NoScript extension? I don't have complex browsing requirements... few pages open at once, few addons installed, no themes, only a few UI modifications made via CSS. Otherwise known as the 'KISS' principle - Keep It simple stupid.
Off-topic:
Speaking of KISS principle, for most things, especially core packages for unixlike distros, I am in support of that, 100%.

I heard of two toolkits that might be of interest to anyone wanting to make a much lighter version of uxp without heavy toolkits like qt and gtk.

Its called fltk.

But yeah, ever since mid 2000s, I have had the "suckit eye candy" type mentality.
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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by Moonchild » 2023-03-13, 08:15

frostknight wrote:
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If this is your reason for not supporting noscript, you are 100% on target.
The reason has been a practical one primarily. But looking at its guts it just reinforced it.
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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by Goodydino » 2023-03-13, 19:15

Why not just use YesScript (or ScriptBlock for Pale Moon)? It does only one thing: control who is not allowed to use javascript. It makes a blacklist instead of a whitelist, which is good enough for me. There are only a few sites whose use of javascript causes me problems.

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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

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Moonchild wrote:
2023-03-13, 08:15
frostknight wrote:
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If this is your reason for not supporting noscript, you are 100% on target.
The reason has been a practical one primarily. But looking at its guts it just reinforced it.
Well either way, this reason is one I can get onboard with.
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Why not just use YesScript (or ScriptBlock for Pale Moon)? It does only one thing: control who is not allowed to use javascript. It makes a blacklist instead of a whitelist, which is good enough for me. There are only a few sites whose use of javascript causes me problems.
My reason for this primarily, is that I consider javascript a scourge of bandwidth and I am aware of what a piece of crap javascript, java and other likewise bloated programming languages are... I include rust on this list too. Whether or not Hyperbola blacklists it, it still is heavy even before you look at its dependencies. Which btw, include python and C.

But that's a different problem, entirely.

My CPU is used a lot less with javascript disabled as much as possible.

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Re: Diagnosing NoScript’s failures

Unread post by vannilla » 2023-03-13, 22:54

Goodydino wrote:
2023-03-13, 19:15
Why not just use YesScript (or ScriptBlock for Pale Moon)? It does only one thing: control who is not allowed to use javascript. It makes a blacklist instead of a whitelist, which is good enough for me. There are only a few sites whose use of javascript causes me problems.
Nowadays there's not much of a reason to use NoScript: most of the time an adblocker is enough; disabling scripts only give an empty DOM, instead of something readable but without interactions; eMatrix and uBlock-advanced-mode offer a more powerful interface to better block not just scripts, but also the more insidious script-driven remote connections without breaking interactions.

This thread, as stated in the OP, is not about which is better or what's meant to be used nowadays. It is about investigating NoScript itself.
We already discovered something from Moonchild: it hooks into the garbage collector and other internal components, which is a possible cause of the reported instabilities.

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vannilla wrote:
2023-03-13, 22:54
Nowadays there's not much of a reason to use NoScript: most of the time an adblocker is enough; disabling scripts only give an empty DOM, instead of something readable but without interactions; eMatrix and uBlock-advanced-mode offer a more powerful interface to better block not just scripts, but also the more insidious script-driven remote connections without breaking interactions.
To be honest, at this point firefox users who use windows are the only people I think who benefit at all.

The rest is... meaningless probably. The difference between not having a script blocker like noscript on such an OS and having one, can be like night and day.
vannilla wrote:
2023-03-13, 22:54
This thread, as stated in the OP, is not about which is better or what's meant to be used nowadays. It is about investigating NoScript itself.
We already discovered something from Moonchild: it hooks into the garbage collector and other internal components, which is a possible cause of the reported instabilities.
Its surprising how few people actually found out about this and actually did something about it.

What shocked me the most, was something g4jc said...

I don't remember how he said it, but basically, google analytics was running within noscript ITSELF!

Truly nuts...

-_-

I am paraphrasing, somewhat, but yeah, the default noscript did some bad stuff that gave google information.
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