NoScript block is now mandatory?

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NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by oinkoink » 2022-05-11, 16:27

Previously, NoScript carried a warning that it caused security or stability issues but could be manually enabled anyway. As of this morning, my browser is warning me that NoScript is blocked and offers no option to re-enable it.

The link at https://blocklist.palemoon.org/info/?id=pm112 still says that I "...can continue to use it if you so wish after confirmation." but there is no longer any clear way to re-enable the extension.

Why was this done?

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2022-05-11, 16:46

Have you disabled the check of addons in Preferences --> Security?
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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by oinkoink » 2022-05-11, 17:02

Yes, I've had NoScript enabled for years. It was automatically disabled this morning.

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by BenFenner » 2022-05-11, 17:28

There has been a good bit of background changes to and for extensions lately. Can you please tell us exactly what version of Pale Moon you're having this issue with?

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by oinkoink » 2022-05-11, 17:34

31.0.0

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-11, 17:37

For GRE, the blocking level severity was increased for NoScript and a few other blockers. This precipitated down to Pale Moon 31 unintentionally. I've adjusted the blocklist service to have an updated version of the blocklist with readjusted severity which should be pulled down to your browser automatically given some time.
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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by oinkoink » 2022-05-11, 17:45

Thank you very much.

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Lack of NoScript in v31

Unread post by dave1a » 2022-05-12, 03:37

So you've automatically disabled NoScript in the latest version. If there is a way to re-enable it I couldn't find it. NoScript is the only reason I use Pale Moon.

It enables me to read (some) newspaper articles behind their paywalls, allows me to cruise sites that may be dangerous (for research purposes, obviously) and removes 99% of the annoying stuff which no other browser/add-on combination can do better.

Almost all sites work with it and I've never seen any of this instability you talk about. If a site doesn't work, then I just switch to Brave or Chrome - and there's even add-ons for Pale Moon that let me do that.

I've been a great fan of Pale Moon since it forked from Firefox many years ago. I even made a financial contribution because it deserved support

Anyway, have just re-installed version 29, recovered my backed-up profile, and turned off the automatic update feature. For the time being at least, any security risks from not upgrading will be outweighed by the security that NoScript provides against malevolent scripts.

This isn't a final goodbye, but it's one step closer.

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by thosrtanner » 2022-05-12, 06:29

I went and checked this morning, and noscript is still blocked, even though the info page says:


Severity level 1: You will be warned and recommended to disable this extension, but can continue to use it if you so wish after confirmation.

I haven't been asked to reconfirm I want it. How do I get the prompt or otherwise re-enable noscript?

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-12, 09:13

d'oh. My mistake. I lowered it to 2, not 1. Sorry!
I'll fix that now.
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Re: Lack of NoScript in v31

Unread post by BenFenner » 2022-05-12, 15:55

dave1a wrote:
2022-05-12, 03:37
and removes 99% of the annoying stuff which no other browser/add-on combination can do better.
As a huge NoScript fan, I used it for a long time. And like you, I never had any issues with it and Pale Moon. As long as you know what you're doing, it's not a problem.
(But I do understand why it went unsupported, and agree with the thought process there.)

Regardless, there was something that triggered me to give eMatrix a try and I have found it just as capable as NoScript, but even more effective and granular if desired.
(Bonus, it's supported for Pale Moon so I don't have to disable it or otherwise avoid it when reporting issues on the forum here.)

While someone once described it as jumping out of the pan and into the fire, I guess I disagree. ;)

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by C Bagnall » 2022-05-12, 19:54

This issue is fixed for me now. It took most of the day before Pale Moon updated its configuration.

Once it did, CTRL-Shift-A, and the "enable" button was back for NoScript.

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Re: Lack of NoScript in v31

Unread post by Attronarch » 2022-05-12, 21:50

dave1a wrote:
2022-05-12, 03:37
It enables me to read (some) newspaper articles behind their paywalls...
Congrats on boasting for theft. What a fine supporter.

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-05-13, 00:32

Attronarch wrote:
2022-05-12, 21:50
Congrats on boasting for theft. What a fine supporter.
Off-topic:
Quit being so sanctimonious. It's idiotic to expect to subscribe to read one single article from a website you're not going to frequently visit.
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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by Attronarch » 2022-05-13, 06:04

moonbat wrote:
2022-05-13, 00:32
Attronarch wrote:
2022-05-12, 21:50
Congrats on boasting for theft. What a fine supporter.
Off-topic:
Quit being so sanctimonious. It's idiotic to expect to subscribe to read one single article from a website you're not going to frequently visit.
Off-topic:
Are you, out of all people, going to lecture me? You, who have copied Tobin's style of communication for so long? Theft is theft. Your dislike of someone's business doesn't give you any right to steal.

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by moonbat » 2022-05-13, 07:25

Attronarch wrote:
2022-05-13, 06:04
Are you, out of all people, going to lecture me? You, who have copied Tobin's style of communication for so long?
Off-topic:
Oh, I'm so honored. Good to know he's still living rent free inside your head long after being shown the door from here.
This thread was about NoScript, so take your anti piracy rant elsewhere.
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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by Pentium4User » 2022-05-13, 07:32

Off-topic:
If blocking scripts makes articles behind a paywall visible without paying, then the newspaper has serious security issues. Everybody knows that scripts on the client's side can be manipulated.
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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by Trippynet » 2022-05-13, 07:40

Attronarch wrote:
2022-05-13, 06:04
Off-topic:
Theft is theft. Your dislike of someone's business doesn't give you any right to steal.
Off-topic:
Except that it isn't theft because the content of the article isn't actually locked away. It is being willingly served to your browser by the website in question. Of course, it's also served with some Javascript which is supposed to prevent it from being displayed, but anyone can read the article by viewing the source of the page, or by disabling Javascript.

TLDR: It isn't theft to view information which a webserver has freely and willingly distributed to you - even if they have made a half-hearted attempt to obfuscate it.

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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by Moonchild » 2022-05-13, 08:21

Keep this thread on-topic please.

If you want to discuss paywalls vs. theft vs. technicalities of trying to protect copyrighted content, then please take that to the Off-topic board.
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Re: NoScript block is now mandatory?

Unread post by VevendoVides » 2022-05-13, 08:50

Moonchild wrote:
2022-05-12, 09:13
d'oh. My mistake. I lowered it to 2, not 1. Sorry!
I'll fix that now.
Thank you, it seems to be fixed - but only in my Company-PM where i yesterday evening updated to 31. But at home, the result is still the same.What do i have to do, do reactivate NoScript on my private System? I am offered only "delete" but nothing else more.

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