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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby eskaton023 » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 13:14

Well, it's not like he promised to support PM and then broke that promise. That he never commited to supporting PM for the rest of his life is not some egregious sin. From his perspective I assume it's a matter of seeing a very small portion of his userbase relying on code that's blocking or complicating further development.

From the 1.15.20 Release Notes:
"Keep in mind I plan to drop support for Firefox/legacy once Firefox 60 ESR is released on May 7. This will remove a roadblock for simplifying uBO's code base in many areas."

I've seen Moonchild and yourself state the PM won't support or add functionality based on the same rationale.

I feel your ire is based on the poor feedback you received on your version of ABL / ABPrime and that most users here kept suggesting uBlock, which you took as a personal affront.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby JustOff » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 13:46

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:uBlock was NEVER designed for Pale Moon nor has he EVER made a SOLID commitment to Pale Moon support

Oh come on, could you please finally stop this war?! At the moment, uBlock perfectly suits Pale Moon and none of ABP forks does it any better. As for the future, I'm absolutely sure that if Pale Moon updates will require uBlock adaptation, it will be forked and fixed without any problems, just like it happens with other extensions that are important to users, or it will rest in peace if it's not. There is no drama or reason for accusations at all.
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Moonraker » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 14:21

If it functions as is now then why update at all unless there are specific features which are needed.Updating like a rabid dog on heat can bring issues itself.as long as the filters can be updated manually then i see no issues with this.
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Tomaso » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 14:28

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:ONCE and ONLY once did he fix an issue specifically for Pale Moon..

Well, to gorhill's defence, he actually committed a new Pale Moon fix just a few hour ago:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/commi ... f1a9940bc/
Because of this bug that I reported:
https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/issues/3665/
As it turns out, this also affects SeaMonkey.
..but at the time that he fixed it, he believed it to be a Pale Moon issue only.
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Moonraker » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 14:41

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:For THREE years now I been telling people not to rely on uBlock and Gorhill and this is why.. I tried giving him and his users the benefit of the doubt.. Tried to rationalize my previous criticism away to improve the situation even swallowed my pride to think of the bigger picture.. Even tried ignoring it.. uBlock was NEVER designed for Pale Moon nor has he EVER made a SOLID commitment to Pale Moon support. Yes, he accepted a patch from the pre-origin fork off point that added Toolkit widget support .. FOR SEAMONKEY.. Yes he added an install.rdf entry.. and yes even ONCE and ONLY once did he fix an issue specifically for Pale Moon..

However, even given that he has remained in a position that has only been ONE step away from the good folks at Adblock Plus with regards of supporting us. Maybe next time you will listen to me..

The bottom line is.. I speak only the truth and everything I say is almost always eventually right.

Who would you suggest users rely on then.?
its a damn fine extension and i for one am grateful it is here and the longevity of the developer is a nonsense.
the adblock plus team ,are they going to be around forever.?.Can they be relied upon.?
or you yourself.?.how long can your presence be relied upon.?.I am sorry but your logic is seriously flawed.

And with that note.....
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby New Tobin Paradigm » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 20:57

I will be here until the heat death of the universe.. I think I have proven that already.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Sajadi » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 21:59

JustOff wrote::!: Please pay attention that today Raymond Hill announced that he plans to drop support for Firefox/legacy version of uBlock once Firefox 60 ESR is released on May 7.

Obviously this also means the end of uBlock Origin Updater :coffee:


Well, no surprise here. If no-one will fork the add-on in the end, the old versions can be used still without trouble. That is all what can be said to this topic seen from a neutral point of view.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Moonraker » Mon, 02 Apr 2018, 22:36

Sajadi wrote:
JustOff wrote::!: Please pay attention that today Raymond Hill announced that he plans to drop support for Firefox/legacy version of uBlock once Firefox 60 ESR is released on May 7.

Obviously this also means the end of uBlock Origin Updater :coffee:


Well, no surprise here. If no-one will fork the add-on in the end, the old versions can be used still without trouble. That is all what can be said to this topic seen from a neutral point of view.

As long as the old versions still function and filterlists can be updated then i see no reason why UBO cannot be used for a few years more.
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Thehandyman1957 » Tue, 03 Apr 2018, 00:21

So I'm just wondering, won't it still work even after that? Won't the filters still be updated?
And if not, then what is the best alternative? :problem:
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby 137ben » Tue, 03 Apr 2018, 00:31

Moonraker wrote:
Sajadi wrote:
JustOff wrote::!: Please pay attention that today Raymond Hill announced that he plans to drop support for Firefox/legacy version of uBlock once Firefox 60 ESR is released on May 7.

Obviously this also means the end of uBlock Origin Updater :coffee:


Well, no surprise here. If no-one will fork the add-on in the end, the old versions can be used still without trouble. That is all what can be said to this topic seen from a neutral point of view.

As long as the old versions still function and filterlists can be updated then i see no reason why UBO cannot be used for a few years more.

I think it would be nice if someone made a fork that
a)Is hosted on the Pale Moon Add-Ons site, and
b)Got bugfixes for anything really significant that crops up.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Sajadi » Tue, 03 Apr 2018, 06:01

137ben wrote:I think it would be nice if someone made a fork that
a)Is hosted on the Pale Moon Add-Ons site, and
b)Got bugfixes for anything really significant that crops up.


As Pale Moon is a project which sometimes requires the user to get active if they want something or if they want to keep something... Feel free to learn how to fork and maintain that add-on - or find a person who is helping you learning that skills or find someone who would be willing to do it for you and others ;)

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby JustOff » Sat, 28 Apr 2018, 13:35

:idea: Some updates on the topic:

Raymond Hill decided not to drop support for XUL-based version of uBlock Origin completely and stated that he is willing to provide trivial fixes when necessary (pull requests are welcome). For this purpose, a separate brunch was created, and the file name of the future XUL-based versions will be uBlock0.firefox-legacy.xpi.

Warning! Files named uBlock0.firefox.xpi with version above 1.16.2 will contain WebExtension for Firefox (formerly called uBlock0.webext.xpi) and are not suitable for Pale Moon.

uBlock Origin Updater will be aligned with this changes soon.
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Isengrim » Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 03:12

This is good (if only temporarily good) news. Thank you JustOff! :thumbup:
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby New Tobin Paradigm » Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 05:50

>firefox-legacy

Sigh...
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby coffeebreak » Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 06:37

JustOff wrote:Raymond Hill decided not to drop support for XUL-based version of uBlock Origin completely and stated that he is willing to provide trivial fixes when necessary (pull requests are welcome).

This is wonderful news!
Thank you JustOff, for posting.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Latitude » Sun, 29 Apr 2018, 11:07

JustOff wrote::idea: Some updates on the topic:

Raymond Hill decided not to drop support for XUL-based version of uBlock Origin completely and stated that he is willing to provide trivial fixes when necessary (pull requests are welcome). For this purpose, a separate brunch was created, and the file name of the future XUL-based versions will be uBlock0.firefox-legacy.xpi.

Warning! Files named uBlock0.firefox.xpi with version above 1.16.2 will contain WebExtension for Firefox (formerly called uBlock0.webext.xpi) and are not suitable for Pale Moon.

uBlock Origin Updater will be aligned with this changes soon.


FYI, joey04 has developed a fork of it - xulBlock Advanced (https://github.com/joey04/xulBlock-Advanced).

His thread on PM forum - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=18188
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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Nigaikaze » Mon, 30 Apr 2018, 01:12

Latitude wrote:FYI, joey04 has developed a fork of it - xulBlock Advanced (https://github.com/joey04/xulBlock-Advanced).

His thread on PM forum - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=18188

Considering he is moving on to other browsers, I wouldn't expect much further development of his fork.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby BlueOwl » Mon, 30 Apr 2018, 02:53

Ouch. I'm reading the forum quite often now, but I often skip over usernames...
I just hope gorhill continues development.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby coffeebreak » Mon, 30 Apr 2018, 12:03

BlueOwl wrote:I just hope gorhill continues development.

See six posts above yours.

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Re: uBlock Origin Updater

Unread postby Nightbird » Mon, 30 Apr 2018, 13:51

Off-topic:
Nigaikaze wrote:
Latitude wrote:FYI, joey04 has developed a fork of it - xulBlock Advanced (https://github.com/joey04/xulBlock-Advanced).

His thread on PM forum - viewtopic.php?f=46&t=18188

Considering he is moving on to other browsers, I wouldn't expect much further development of his fork.

See here please :
https://github.com/joey04/xulBlock-Advanced/issues/13

I quote joey04 :
"I will no longer maintain xBA"
"xBA will continue to reside here for anyone interested in using it or forking it."
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