memory leaks:placebo or nocebo fix for an old system

[mr666]

Is anyone using or knowing RAMBack 1.0 di Stuart Parmenter?
Sometimes PM is a alittle unresponsive after long heavy-load session and may-be it would be a solution simply but effective to avoid to stop PM and then restart itwhen it is unresponsive( it "eats" about 500K k in these cases): I am going to test and then to post something for its usage with my 980 ram, 1800/800 single and old core AMD Benq notebook with WINXP and DSL-wi-fi connection.

I have also experienced this other add-ons:

• Adnostic, PlacesCleaner, Print Edit, DOMCrypt, Docs Online Viewer

Goodbye,
Paolo
PM15.2

[steviem1]

If you have a modest setup with limited ram, slowdowns and freezes can be a problem depending on how many tabs you like to keep open. I've used RAMBack in the past but found it very limited for my system with only 1Mb RAM. I suggest you try BarTab 4, download link: http://www.mediafire.com/?n22qvg90h4bl0td which unloads tabs from memory after a specified idle period, with further configuration options, it could reduce your RAM consumption considerably and may avoid the need to restart the browser in order to restore your browsing session.
Please look at these links for further information on RAMBack and BarTab: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... s/?src=api and https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bartab/

[Blacklab]

Just for further consideration have a look at Memoryfox topic: http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=1316 which includes this post:

You might consider using CleanMem, it's not as dramatic in effect as things like MemoryFox but it doesn't push everything into the pagefile either: http://www.pcwintech.com/about-cleanmem

CleanMem seems well thought of by some and there is a good review on Gizmo's: http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-fr ... imizer.htm and a real catfight in the comments regarding the usefulness of any memory optimizers - recommended read!
Also Memoryfox's close cousin Minimem which started life as a Firefox Add-on: http://main.kerkia.com/Tools/Minimem/description.aspx
Personally I remain to be convinced that these "optimizers" are not just "smoke and mirrors" or "bad science" as Sysinternals founder Mark Russinovich obviously thinks in this old article: http://www.windowsitpro.com/article/int ... ation-hoax

[Moonchild]

Read this: http://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php ... t=10#p7552

Placebo, the lot of them. You are making things unnecessarily slower by using these tools only to satisfy the memory "use" that you can "see". I agree with Mark Russinovich - I think both my namesake and myself have a good grasp of how application memory is handled.
The article linked to, by the way, addresses optimizers using a different method of "freeing" RAM, but the end result is the same: the application's actively used working memory is pushed out to the paging file and onto disk (or into the disk cache).

[mr666]

I have read advices and tried to solve the issue using my personal sensitiviy and no data benchmarking( I do not believe too much in this tool, should I ?) to produce some useful effect for undesidered details of the browser activity.
Other than this I would express some doubts as I cannot see any more plugin-container process in task manager: I remember that PM runs its own process separately from the plugin one. It would be useful to test extensions.
I have found some problems with CleanMem during pre-install exams, I was not sure it would be safe enough and I weren't going to install it at the moment.
Alo Minimem produced a strange result in Anubis test, but I tried anyway without having positive output about freezing and I decided to delete: IMO it is not so bad actually, but I am not sure it is what I need..
I continue to test BAR TAB 4 even if it isn't being supported in 15.2 FF... but it seems to be simply enough to have some placebo/positive effect yet.
I have seen something on hardware level: a cooler for ram memory.. I have never heard something about that, I think it could be nice, probably no so expensive as new RAM memory.
Goodbye
Paolo

[Moonchild]

The plugin container process is only present if you have pages opened that use a plugin, and you have out-of-process-plugin execution enabled (this is enabled by default and strongly recommended, but some third party tool may have disabled it).

[mr666]

How can I check if it's enabled or not?
Thank you a lot, in advance,
Paolo

[Moonchild]

Open the configuration editor by typing about:config in the address bar and pressing enter
Find the parameter dom.ipc.plugins.enabled - this should be set to true to have it enabled

[mr666]

just this, sir?
Thank you
Paolo