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QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Michaell » 2021-11-18, 23:33

Is the author of this fork planning to support any of the extra buttons that PrefBar had on its website? Some of the best ones were not included in the default set.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by moonbat » 2021-11-18, 23:58

Which ones were they?
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-11-19, 02:27

Basically, the various buttons found here: http://prefbar.tuxfamily.org/buttons.html.

In the original PrefBar, additinal buttons could be imported/added to the default ones either by importing directly from the web page, or from the locally saved file. In QuickPrefBar, both ways fail.

Trying to import a locally saved file gives a message that QuickPrefBar can't read the file:
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Michaell » 2021-11-19, 02:48

Coffeebreak, I can get around that with a little editing when the button is simple. Then they will import correctly. Can also create new buttons for ones that are simple enough. But one that I'm most interested in still doesn't work although it installs OK after editing. I have not tried the older, original version in 29.4 yet but I have a customized version that's worked up to 29.3. I was trying to decide whether the new fork would do or to try to keep my old one going forward if possible.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-11-19, 04:56

Michaell wrote:
2021-11-19, 02:48
I can get around that with a little editing when the button is simple. Then they will import correctly. [...] But one that I'm most interested in still doesn't work although it installs OK after editing.
Yes, looks like essentially updating the extension's name inside the button-import-file handles it for many.
(such as changing prefbar to quickprefbar)

Perhaps look around in QuickPrefBar's files to identify the reference(s) you still need to update in your particular button...?
Edit: As a guess/example: the original extension uses " goPrefBar " in many places,
which the fork has changed to " goQuickPrefBar ". Maybe it's relevant for your button?

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Proteus » 2021-11-28, 12:03

Michaell wrote:
2021-11-18, 23:33
Is the author of this fork planning to support any of the extra buttons that PrefBar had on its website? Some of the best ones were not included in the default set.
I'm the author of the extension. Which of the extra buttons would you like to have integrated?

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Michaell » 2021-11-28, 15:36

Page2Image is the critical one. I use that over any extensions or Custom Buttons or the built in Dev Tools screenshot because it is minimal, handy and does a great job. It does have an unknown size limit that sometimes kicks in but it takes a really large page to see that.

This one is the only one that I checked that I was not able to get working with simple edits. There is something somewhere in the code that prevents it from working even though I did get it to install (aka import). I went back to PrefBar for now (still working in PM 29.4) so I did not try editing all the others but as far as I know all the simple ones can be made to work in QuickPrefBar with just simple edits. I will do an extra install of PM Portable if I need to help test QuickPrefBar buttons before switching over to it for routine use.

Others I use that would be nice to have:

o - URL Path ... these are handy and fortunately still work despite so much crazy coding on web pages these days

o - Online Checkbox ... PM has a menu option but I like having a visual indicator for when I forget I disabled it (SeaMonkey has a nice looking button). Being able to toggle online status is useful for when pages reload too much, etc.

o - Block Auto Refresh ... I leave it checked until a page annoys me too much. Now though, nearly everything is JS, so this one is less important now than in the past (I block JS by default on new sites so this is one way they can still get around that).

o - Clone Tab .... use occasionally (I thought PM still had this built in, but seems to be gone now)

o - Clear Domain Cookies ... I do use a simple cookie deleter extension so don't need this routinely but occasionally it is helpful to force remove cookies for a particular site so it still earns a place in my prefbar tool set.

o - InfoList ... even though I have FEBE and the browser generates a list as part of the Troubleshooting page, I still appreciate the simple compact output from this button. There is a nice Custom Button for this too, but I'm trying to go with PrefBar because CB got to where it was harder and harder to get working with newer browsers.


One of the default buttons, Colors, doesn't seem to work for me anymore. That is true in PrefBar as well and I gave up on it several years ago. It may be due to when websites switched to CSS versus using BODY attributes. It might still work on some pages but they are rare and hard to even find one for testing. If it works for you though, keep it. There are others like Plugins and Flash that don't seem worth keeping to me but then I don't have to use them so no harm.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Goodydino » 2021-11-28, 18:44

-URL path - is that not what is in the address bar?
-Block auto refresh - that is a settiing in about:config. Why toggle it? Set it to true and if you want a page reloaded, click the reload button or shift-click it.
-Clone tab - if you want another copy of a tab, you can middle-click the currently viewed tab. If you want to move it, drag and drop.

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Michaell » 2021-11-28, 19:27

URL Path buttons: "/"= go root (base domain), ".."= go up one subdir level
Block Auto Refresh: because I want to control it
Clone Tab: no middle button because no mouse

I'm not interested in trying to convince anyone that they need to use them, so comments like yours are worthless.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-11-28, 20:36

Michaell wrote:
2021-11-28, 19:27
Block Auto Refresh
This is already incorporated into the fork, but with a changed name.
Look for the button called redirect. (It toggles the same preference, "accessibility.blockautorefresh").

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Michaell » 2021-11-28, 22:24

Then the new name should be changed. Redirect is different than Refresh.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-11-28, 22:38

Michaell wrote:
2021-11-28, 22:24
new name should be changed
The label can be edited if you want it to be different:
Customize -> R-click on the button -> Edit .

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-11-28, 22:53

Michaell wrote:
2021-11-28, 19:27
no middle button because no mouse
Then use whatever the option is to emulate the third button. I'm sure just about every OS out there has at least that option available.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Michaell » 2021-11-28, 23:39

coffeebreak wrote:
2021-11-28, 22:38
The label can be edited if you want it to be different:
Yes, I've been editing the labels for a long time, making them as short as practical. I have my prefbar buttons on the bookmarks toolbar. My comment was meant for the author to change it so it doesn't mislead people.

And Moonchild, no thanks. I do things my way.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by coffeebreak » 2021-11-29, 01:46

Michaell wrote:
2021-11-28, 23:39
My comment was meant for the author to change it so it doesn't mislead people.
Off-topic:
Michaell, I understood your intention.

But I also think it's understandable that people, many of them, do associate autorefresh with redirects, since as I understand it's ONE of the ways (if not the only way) that redirects can be accomplished.
There's been a ton of discussion on how best to clarify all this (eg. bugzilla-510186 +comment12, bugzilla-1150311).

Personally, if I'm being honest, I tend to not worry about it much.

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-11-29, 10:32

Oh by the way if you want to clone a tab you can also hold Ctrl and drag the tab.
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-11-29, 11:30

Middle-click reload?

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Moonchild » 2021-11-29, 13:11

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2021-11-29, 11:30
Middle-click reload?
He was complaining he doesn't have a middle button.

But by the same stretch ctrl+reload will also achieve the same.

Also, I'm pretty sure we've all listed the various options several times already on the forum -- but it's been a little while since. Search is your friend though!
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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by Proteus » 2021-12-03, 17:26

Ok, I'll see what I can include. But that may take a while.

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Re: QuickPrefBar

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2021-12-03, 18:21

Download a middle button.

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