Pale Moon 28.16.0

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Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by dbsoft » 2020-11-24, 12:19

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Most of the Big Sur fixes made it into this release, but there is one lingering issue with version detection which causes Pale Moon to report MacOS version 10.0 instead of the expected 10.16, which is the compatibility version for MacOS 11.0. This may cause unexpected behavior, there is a fix for this which has not been reviewed, but fixes the issue for me which will hopefully go into the tree soon. I made a separate build with this fix, consider this build experimental. Available here:

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by KlarkKentThe3rd » 2020-11-25, 15:45

Works no better or worse than before...... which means you did nothing wrong. Great job.

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by rubenainaud » 2020-11-25, 18:20

Thank you very much

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by dbsoft » 2020-11-25, 19:56

KlarkKentThe3rd wrote:
2020-11-25, 15:45
Works no better or worse than before...... which means you did nothing wrong. Great job.
Thanks! Just out of curiosity are you running the official release or the Big Sur version?

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by KlarkKentThe3rd » 2020-11-26, 11:18

dbsoft wrote:
2020-11-25, 19:56
KlarkKentThe3rd wrote:
2020-11-25, 15:45
Works no better or worse than before...... which means you did nothing wrong. Great job.
Thanks! Just out of curiosity are you running the official release or the Big Sur version?
I don't use Big Sur, don't want to use Big Sur, and my ancient machine will CHUG on Big Sur.

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by dbsoft » 2020-11-26, 18:07

KlarkKentThe3rd wrote:
2020-11-26, 11:18
use Big Sur, don't want to use Big Sur, and my ancient machine will CHUG on Big Sur.
Yeah I know, just wondering if you were using the Big Sur build or not... but assuming that means you are using the official build. ;)

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by PikachuEXE » 2020-11-27, 06:49

Another guy using official release with MacOS 10.15 here :wave:

Not updating to Big Sur for the next 6 months

GA versions are just beta versions these days :D

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-11-27, 09:03

The point is to get reports from those who are using Big Slug or whatever so I dunno why you guys are reporting anything when you don't.
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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by dbsoft » 2020-11-27, 23:04

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
2020-11-27, 09:03
The point is to get reports from those who are using Big Slug or whatever so I dunno why you guys are reporting anything when you don't.
Was also curious if the "no issues" report was coming from the official release or the one with the version patch.

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-11-28, 00:00

So do none of users use Lord Slug?
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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by dbsoft » 2020-11-28, 11:16

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:
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So do none of users use Lord Slug?
There were at least 2 that requested a version for Big Sur in the 28.15.0 thread, but haven't heard from them since I posted Big Sur versions.

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by Moonchild » 2020-11-28, 11:33

That's just typical, isn't it?
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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by darksidekevin » 2020-12-01, 15:38

Big improvement on Big Sur thanks. Also thanks for still supporting Lion :-)

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by darksidekevin » 2020-12-01, 15:44

I didn't request Big Sur version, but I am using it. The blank message popup problem I reported last has been fixed with the Big Sur Version. I am running patched Big Sur on a Mac Pro 5,1 (flashed 4,1)

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-12-01, 16:44

If at all possible we want to only have to have one binary that works with 10.7 to latest. This does not mean we might discontinue older versions as they age beyond reason but we will give best effort to keep them working decently.

However, when we ask how things are going on versions of the target operating system we are looking for tangible feedback FOR those versions.
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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by darksidekevin » 2020-12-01, 17:14

Not sure if my feedback was tangible, but the issue I had on big sur with the blank message and suggestion popups for cut paste etc, has been fixed in the big sur version. I have a couple of 4,1 macbooks and I'm pleased with performance on those of the main release. Firefox Legacy has a lion supported browser, but Pale Moon is my preference, I like to use it on my windows PC at work and because I use it on my older macs , I like to use it on my Mac Pro in the first instance. I have a couple of PowerPC mac's too, but "tenfourpalemoon" is beyond my capabilities and a big ask to push onto someone else, so I'll stick with tenfourfox :lol:

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by dbsoft » 2020-12-01, 18:43

darksidekevin wrote:
2020-12-01, 15:38
Big improvement on Big Sur thanks. Also thanks for still supporting Lion :-)
Glad it is working for you thanks!

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by dbsoft » 2020-12-01, 19:59

darksidekevin wrote:
2020-12-01, 17:14
I have a couple of PowerPC mac's too, but "tenfourpalemoon" is beyond my capabilities and a big ask to push onto someone else, so I'll stick with tenfourfox :lol:
I also have a PowerPC Mac too, but my build machine can no longer build PowerPC binaries, the PowerPC Mac is woefully under-powered and the Pale Moon source base currently requires 10.7 so the likelihood of a PowerPC build is slim to none at the moment. TenFourFox is definitely the way to go for PowerPC Macs.

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by wicknix » 2020-12-02, 06:35

Off-topic:
the Pale Moon source base currently requires 10.7
Actually, current UXP could work on 10.6 as it's based on 52.9 which now builds and runs on Snow Leopard. PowerPC 10.4/10.5 is a bit tougher. I managed to get the older Pale Moon 27.9.4 code to build and function on Tiger and Leopard though. So anything is possible. Anyway, keep up the good work with the supported OS X stuff.

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Re: Pale Moon 28.16.0

Post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2020-12-02, 08:40

10.6 is too old to consider as we move forward. But as a complete traitor to the project it figures you'd eventually come and spout this kind of bullshit to mess with the hopes and minds of users.

Also, until I release Borealis any state of code you are using there is illegal as the MPL grants apply to covered source code modifications the moment a binary form is distrubuted. Since there are none you actually have no legal rights to anything I have changed. But as a BSD Communist and ally of MSFN Hackers I expected no different from you.

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