Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

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The Mac OSX version of Pale Moon is still very much in development. Your assistance in bringing this build to fruition is greatly appreciated, but you can expect there to be bugs and problems for a while yet!

Any specific bugs you find that don't have their own topic yet: please make a new topic; one bug per topic please to keep things organized.

Please also note that these builds are currently created by Sugis and Moonchild will likely not be able to provide insight or assistance due to lack of Mac hardware and OS/build knowledge for Mac.
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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby zippy72 » Sat, 05 May 2018, 17:43

Actually I have found one issue now: every time I open Pale Moon it would ask to become the default browser, even though it already was. I suspect this is a new behaviour in High Sierra, as the first time I did it after upgrading a saw a new dialog I've not seeing whether I wanted to change the default browser from "org.mozilla.newmoon" to "New Moon".
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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Sun, 06 May 2018, 06:16

TV Tropes (dot org) started working suddenly. Guess it could have been on their end.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby SpockFan02 » Sun, 06 May 2018, 21:48

zippy72 wrote:I'd kind of like the title bar back on normal windows, so if anyone knows what setting it is that causes it to go away, I'd be grateful to know.
Personas/lightweight themes kill the titlebar on Mac (nobody knows why, though); see https://github.com/MoonchildProductions ... issues/623

If you have a persona installed, that'd do it.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Sat, 12 May 2018, 06:25

Might as well ask: regarding ChromeEdit, how do I undo whatever I did? How do I return to all default settings?

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby Goodydino » Sat, 12 May 2018, 16:11

If you added code to any of the files you created with ChromEdit Plus, you can remove that code. Save the file afterwards.
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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Sat, 12 May 2018, 17:29

Goodydino wrote:If you added code to any of the files you created with ChromEdit Plus, you can remove that code. Save the file afterwards.


Well, I found where the code was put (it was in ChromeEdit >> Options). Selected everything, deleted, pressed OK. Not sure if that did anything, there was no restart prompt.
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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby SpockFan02 » Sun, 13 May 2018, 02:30

Changes to userChrome.css only take effect after restarting the browser.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Sun, 13 May 2018, 04:09

SpockMan02 wrote:Changes to userChrome.css only take effect after restarting the browser.


i think it did work. On one website text in the comment section looks different (how it was before).

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby zippy72 » Sat, 19 May 2018, 22:28

SpockMan02 wrote:
zippy72 wrote:I'd kind of like the title bar back on normal windows, so if anyone knows what setting it is that causes it to go away, I'd be grateful to know.
Personas/lightweight themes kill the titlebar on Mac (nobody knows why, though); see https://github.com/MoonchildProductions ... issues/623

If you have a persona installed, that'd do it.

Indeed it does, thank you kindly!
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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Tue, 22 May 2018, 06:47

Every time I visit a Twitter page, it auto-switches to the mobile version, and does not give me the option to view the normal version.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby SpockFan02 » Tue, 22 May 2018, 07:07

Confirmed, but a user agent override fixes it.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Tue, 22 May 2018, 18:38

Will the next version of Mac Palemoon fix any of this?

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby SpockFan02 » Tue, 22 May 2018, 23:07

Twitter's discrimination based on user agent strings will not be fixed by an update to Pale Moon, only a change of policy or bug fix on Twitter's end.

As for the personas/titlebar issue... As far as I know nobody understands why it happens, so Pale Moon 28 might fix it, but who knows? The main developers don't have Macs to test with, which is another reason why Pale Moon on Mac has a few quirks.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Wed, 23 May 2018, 04:16

If Twitter is the issue, why does Waterfox work?

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby SpockFan02 » Wed, 23 May 2018, 06:28

I just checked and Waterfox's user agent (at least on my machine) is

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Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:56.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/56.0
, so the same as Firefox 56. Pale Moon's user agent, on the other hand, contains some other stuff, namely

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Goanna/3.4
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PaleMoon/27.9.0
. Twitter detects this and serves the mobile site to Pale Moon users despite Pale Moon being perfectly capable of loading the normal site. As I said before, a user agent override (e.g. using Safari's UA) fixes it.

Also, according to Moonchild, some people on Twitter who are using Firefox are also having this problem, so it's not even just affecting Pale Moon. I have no idea what's going on with Twitter, other than some crappy browser detection and poor decision-making, but Pale Moon is not the issue, which I know because when I used a different user agent, Twitter was happy to load the normal site.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Wed, 23 May 2018, 09:28

So, how do I change my user agent on PM?

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby SpockFan02 » Wed, 23 May 2018, 18:57

Open about:config in the address bar. Accept responsibility in case of dragon attack.

Right-click on the list of preferences, select New String in the context menu.

The name of the preference should be general.useragent.override.twitter.com, and the value should be the user agent of another browser; I used Safari, so

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Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_12_6) AppleWebKit/604.1.38 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/11.0 Safari/604.1.38
. apparently an IE11 UA also works, but that's for a different OS.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Thu, 24 May 2018, 06:26

Interestingly enough, in MY about:config the Twitter user agent is absent. In case it might help, I visited the site again, as well as someone's page. It didn't help, the user agent did not appear. I restarted Palemoon. Still nothing. No Twitter user agent in about:config.

Unrelated, but valuable. I mentioned there was an issue with uBlock not appearing on the windows, despite me having it. Well, now some windows are missing NoScript. While some do. It seems random, and right now 3 windows out of 17 do not show NoScript near the URL bar. This seem to be a random bug, like nothing in the browser checks that every new window is exactly like one is supposed to look. Also, some new windows (maybe 1 of 10) randomly are automatically sized as full screen (max window size). When closed, the next window will be normal sized.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby SpockFan02 » Thu, 24 May 2018, 07:10

By default there are only user agent overrides for a few sites (important ones that break with a normal Pale Moon user agent). You can add new ones (in this case for Twitter) by right-clicking, hovering over New in the context menu, and clicking String.

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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.0 Mac

Unread postby KlarkKentThe3rd » Fri, 25 May 2018, 02:35

Twitter fixed! Thanks for your neat codes and stuff.


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