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Help with title bar & scroll bars ?

Posted: 2017-12-23, 23:20
by gracious1
Hello. I am watching a friend's apartment over the holidays, and I'm using an iMac, and I have set up Pale Moon here. Trouble is, there is no title bar. I am not sure if this is controlled by PM or by Mac OS b/c I have not used a Mac in a long time. So, sorry if this is a stoopid question, but I could use some help here getting a title bar. (For example, I need the buttons for minimize, maximize, etc.)

Also, how do you get scrollbars? There are no scrollbars in the window.

Thanks!
And Happy Holidays!!!!

Re: Help with title bar & scroll bars ?

Posted: 2017-12-24, 07:27
by SpockFan02
Hello,

I'm on sugis' PM 27.6.2 build on a MacBook Pro, and the minimize, maximize, et al. buttons are present as usual: Image The scroll bar is also there on pages of sufficient length. Could it be a theme you're using? Complete themes can style scroll bars. Also, if you're using a lightweight theme/persona, there's a good chance that this bug is the reason for the absence of the title bar and caption buttons.

' Happy holidays!

Re: Help with title bar & scroll bars ?

Posted: 2017-12-25, 03:06
by gracious1
SpockMan02 wrote:Hello,

I'm on sugis' PM 27.6.2 build on a MacBook Pro, and the minimize, maximize, et al. buttons are present as usual: Image The scroll bar is also there on pages of sufficient length. Could it be a theme you're using? Complete themes can style scroll bars. Also, if you're using a lightweight theme/persona, there's a good chance that this bug is the reason for the absence of the title bar and caption buttons.

' Happy holidays!
The problem with scrollbars is that Mac OS apparently decided to make things difficult for users, especially users with dexterity issues. :( See http://heresthethingblog.com/2015/03/10 ... roll-bars/
But then some of the themes don't mesh well Mac OS scrollbars either.

And as for the disappearing title bar, it is definitely the bug of which you write. So, I guess there is nothing to do but hope that the developers of the unofficial Mac build can figure out a way to resolve it.

Cheers and eggnog!

Re: Help with title bar & scroll bars ?

Posted: 2017-12-26, 00:56
by SpockFan02
Ah, yeah, the scroll bar is only there when you scroll.

And I do hope that bug gets fixed—It's the main reason why I'm not using a lightweight theme.

Re: Help with title bar & scroll bars ?

Posted: 2017-12-27, 17:11
by Goodydino
With MacOS, you can make the scrollbars appear always if the page is longer than the screen. Go into System Preferences > General > Show scroll bars and change the setting to "Always".
They did away with scroll buttons though.

Re: Help with title bar & scroll bars ?

Posted: 2017-12-27, 23:47
by gracious1
Through trial-and-error I have discovered that the MacMoon theme forces scrollbars no matter what the System Settings are set to. And the scrollbar is wider than the default scrollbar. So this is a big plus for this theme, and now that is the theme I'll be using on the Mac.

It also restores the minimize/maximize/close buttons when using a persona, although it puts them on the right side rather than the left.

I also notice that this theme in Mac OS X doesn't have the super slowdown I experienced in Linux, especially when using the Add-ons Manager.