Mozilla, Google, and Microsoft will disable RC4

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Re: Mozilla, Google, and Microsoft will disable RC4

Post by LimboSlam » 2015-09-03, 23:34

Will we do this, or is disabling it good enough?
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Re: Mozilla, Google, and Microsoft will disable RC4

Post by megaman » 2015-09-03, 23:59

The good: We might get sites that are en-par with us about not needing RC4.
The bad: Sites might still take time to get there.

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Re: Mozilla, Google, and Microsoft will disable RC4

Post by Moonchild » 2015-09-04, 00:22

It's about time they finally move forward with this!
I hope they enjoy the smoother ride with us paving part of the way with a number of higher-profile sites already having been forced to look at it due to Pale Moon users ;)
LimboSlam wrote:Will we do this, or is disabling it good enough?
We've already disabled it early this year.
I don't see a reason to completely yank out the cipher. It's good for emergencies to be able to use it as a temporary fallback, and RC4 is far from as vulnerable as the other issues addressed recently (POODLE and Logjam); breaking the cipher isn't trivial or a (near-)real-time option.

How about now, VirginMedia? Will you respond this time? ;)
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Re: Mozilla, Google, and Microsoft will disable RC4

Post by chreid » 2015-09-04, 08:37

Re VM: thanks for keeping an eye on that particular bugbear. I certainly am!

I warned them about this likelihood months ago: "As browsers finally implement current security protocols [by disabling RC4/implementing TLS1.2 and secure reneg etc] then no-one will be able to log in to VM without using insecure browsers. [If IE disabled RC4, which they should have done months ago, VM would act immediately]".

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Re: Mozilla, Google, and Microsoft will disable RC4

Post by Moonchild » 2015-09-04, 08:56

chreid wrote:I warned them about this likelihood months ago:
I've said that this was going to happen - I just expected the "big players" to move a little faster than a year of latency; but it was inevitable. But apparently nobody of those sites took my word for it. I don't just pull this out of my... hat, you know? :)
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Re: Mozilla, Google, and Microsoft will disable RC4

Post by lyceus » 2015-09-05, 03:27

megaman wrote:The good: We might get sites that are en-par with us about not needing RC4.
The bad: Sites might still take time to get there.
Correction:
The bad: Government sites might still take years to get there, as they rely in the lowest browser from Microsoft: MSIE 8. So is a long mile ahead. :(

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