Cloudflare?

[buggy]

Hello,

Each time i start my browser to go to your forum i have an alert firewall ( Remote IP, Port 80 ) which block Cloudflare ( 162.159.253.211 ) http://www.ip-adress.com/whois/palemoon.org Can you explain please.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

Cloudflare is a content delivery network put simply it does caching of a website's content and delivers it to your browser. This has the advantage of offloading the burden of sending content that has not changed from the server. It can also help speed up access to such cached content because CDNs like Cloudflare have several data centers all over the world that would mean data doesn't have to travel nearly as far to your computer.

For more information try a google search.. Regardless, your firewall should not be blocking CDN services like Cloudflare.

[buggy]

Thanks for explication. But i never had this kind of alerts with any website before, Pale Moon's forum is the only one, so new to me. And my firewall does not ask for permission it is blocked like if someone wanted to have a look on my house, nothing i can do. Btw i do not need this kind of services, CDN or whatever.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

WE need these kinds of services. You should be able to whitelist this sort of thing.. Please refer to your firewall's documentation.

[buggy]

WE need these kinds of services. You should be able to whitelist this sort of thing..

Probably for good reasons WE need it... but not me. So never.

[Moonchild]

You need to allow cloudflare datacenters in your firewall or you won't be able to access any websites that use cloudflare for their content delivery and protection (and that is, by now, a very large amount of sites, including palemoon.org sites). See their press page for some info on what they do. Blocking them would be as silly as blocking akamai (e.g. used for Windows Updates downloads) or amazon cloud servers. If you want to use the forum, you MUST allow these servers. if your Firewall is so dumb it hard blocks these servers for no apparent reason and doesn't allow you to unblock it, then you need to switch firewall. If it is blocked by your firewall/security for "your protection from malware" then your firewall has obviously blocked the wrong party (the delivery cloud edge instead of the origin server). False positives, anyone?

Why do I use cloudflare? To provide a robust and secure delivery of web assets to users. To keep my servers safe from DDoS attacks and hackers. To optimize speed of pages where possible regardless of location in the world (www.palemoon.org should be as fast down-under as it is in Europe).

[buggy]

I understand well, like a lot of people now, why you need Cloudflare. Maybe my firewall is buggy but it is fidèle, and like me it absolutely do not need Cloudflair... or clouds or peer to peer or streaming etc or these kinds of things in general which can need CDNs too. I wanted an explanation you given me, so thanks.

PS: anyway its simple, it do no ask for permission, it has no permission.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

I understand well, like a lot of people now, why you need Cloudflare. Maybe my firewall is buggy but it is fidèle, and like me it absolutely do not need Cloudflair... or clouds or peer to peer or streaming etc or these kinds of things in general which can need CDNs too. I wanted an explanation you given me, so thanks.

It is not up to you if we utilize Cloudflare or any of the other technologies you mentioned. Your choice is if you want this forum and the Pale Moon websites (and any other websites) to function properly for you. If you chose to block these then your experience will be degraded. Regardless it is not our problem and totally up to you.

[buggy]

You're right it is my silent alert, so it is my problem yes. Please can you explain to me what which could not "function properly" on this forum if i do not give my permission to Cloudflair to have a look on my pc? because for the moment except this alert all is working well. Also as i already said it is the first and the only time i have experienced that.

[New Tobin Paradigm]

If CloudFlare is blocked again.. The site will not load or will not load any static assets like images, javascript, etc. On the main website it won't load at all..

This is also my final response to this thread.

[buggy]

If CloudFlare is blocked again.. The site will not load or will not load any static assets like images, javascript, etc. On the main website it won't load at all..

This is also my final response to this thread.

I have absolutely not the problems you mention sorry. Just this one:

[Admin]

The forum, website and other assets on the palemoon.org domain (not all, but most) are protected by and served through CloudFlare.
Even if these assets are on different origin servers, you will still see the same IP on your end because it is the CloudFlare datacenter closest to you. That is exactly the way it is supposed to work.

If your firewall decides to block that IP, then all assets on the palemoon.org domain and any other domains and websites that use CloudFlare will fail for you since you are blocking yourself from reaching the cloud edge. The datacenter IP in question, by the way, is assigned dynamically (world-anycast) based on a number of factors including datacenter availability and geographic location/routing from your PC to the Internet. Depending on how your firewall works it may find a "non-match" between domain name and IP (especially if it checks reverse DNS) and warn you. In that case it's simply "as intended". Yes, you connect to a CloudFlare server when you connect to forum.palemoon.org - You should.

[buggy]

Well you use Cloudflare since a moment already, so i am curious to know why i have this problem only since today. And ok if you want to have a forum only for few people who know the trick its not my problem after all. Thanks for explanation, but as i dont understand all, not solved at this time for my part. Anyway my opinion for several reasons is Cloudflare is not well securised, i can't give my confiance (login/pass/email adress/direct access to my datas) to someone i do not trust sorry. So if nothing can be changed i ask you to remove my account please.

[steviem1]

Ah buggy, I think you're being overly paranoid, in no way would the administrators of this forum put anyone at risk, you should know that by now - you will be truly missed around here!

[buggy]

Ah buggy, I think you're being overly paranoid, in no way would the administrators of this forum put anyone at risk, you should know that by now - you will be truly missed around here!

Not a question of the administrator i trust, but our administrator depends of third parties he do not even know, do not forget that. When i have signed on the website it was not question of that. Now i consider on my side the contract is broken, i prefer not to be taken in hostage in case things becomes out of control. Please try to respect my choice instead of being sarcastique without the appropriate quotes, thanks

[dark_moon]

Cloudflare is just a service which can be prevent a server outage if im not wrong.
And all your login data are transfered over ssl and no external script or elements are loaded which try to capture your userdata.

Sorry, but this is only a example how software firewalls can destroy your web browsing.

[minimal-m]

CloudFlare is just a content distribution network and nothing to be afraid of. About 2 million sites utilize their services, including:

The very large bank Wells Fargo - https://www.wellsfargo.com/
Massachusetts Institute of Technology - http://web.mit.edu/
Cisco Systems - http://www.cisco.com/
Nasdaq - http://www.nasdaq.com/
Meetup - http://www.meetup.com/
The Government of UK - https://www.gov.uk/
Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/
OKCupid - https://www.okcupid.com/
And everyones favorite 4chan - https://www.4chan.org/

I think even Facebook and Microsoft use them too

[buggy]

CloudFlare is just a content distribution network and nothing to be afraid of. About 2 million sites utilize their services, including:

The very large bank Wells Fargo - https://www.wellsfargo.com/
Massachusetts Institute of Technology - http://web.mit.edu/
Cisco Systems - http://www.cisco.com/
Nasdaq - http://www.nasdaq.com/
Meetup - http://www.meetup.com/
The Government of UK - https://www.gov.uk/
Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/
OKCupid - https://www.okcupid.com/
And everyones favorite 4chan - https://www.4chan.org/

I think even Facebook and Microsoft use them too

I have nothing to do with these websites, also none of them have the same behaviour of this forum.
Exactly like my firewall i do not like CloudFlair it is my choice. So for the last time i ask you to remove my account. This is my last post on this forum.

[Admin]

Exactly like my firewall i do not like CloudFlair it is my choice. So for the last time i ask you to remove my account. This is my last post on this forum.

All right, your choice. I'll remove your account. I still think you're overreacting for us making a choice to use a CDN for our own protection and better service to our users, but hey...
This removal is permanent, there's no way to get your account back if you change your mind.

[x-15a2]

wow, that was awkward!

Thanks for the tip on CloudFlare, I'm now using it for my golf forums. I doubt that my users will notice\care\freak.