IP-API.com discussion
IP-API.com discussion
http://ip-api.com/
this is being blocked by ublock origin by an adguard spyware filter i should add.
this is being blocked by ublock origin by an adguard spyware filter i should add.
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Pale moon 29.4.1
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Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
Because it's not needed. Everyone and their mom can do a geoip database lookip. Neither the requests nor the responses have any value beyond what is already in the open when looking up your own IP even if it -was- https...Question: Why isn't http://ip-api.com/ using HTTPS?
If you want https you can use their paid service, though.
Then whomever is in charge of that filter list should be taken out back for some "re-education".Moonraker wrote:http://ip-api.com/
this is being blocked by ublock origin by an adguard spyware filter i should add.
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Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/http.html
It does provide some revenue for the developers after all.
I'm definitely missing something here...The language used in the HTTP specification explicitly says that the protocol was designed with enabling the datamining of its users in mind
I do, though admittedly I should configure my content blocker to allow more requests from that page.F22 Simpilot wrote: As to the home page. People use that?!
It does provide some revenue for the developers after all.
Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
I'd like a reference to where the spec says thisvannilla wrote:I'm definitely missing something here...
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"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
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Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
From the link vannilla posted:https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/http.htmlMoonchild wrote:I'd like a reference to where the spec says this
Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
I think he meant from the actual HTTP specification.. Not the fake news on that website.
Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
As a comment on an unrelated ghacks thread put it, privacy nuts being nuts. Of course HTTP wasn't designed with privacy in mind - it was designed to transfer information in an age where exploitation of data by dubious parties did not yet exist.
I have my privacy concerns about using the internet, as do many people I know, but folks who write half-truths and spread FUD like this accomplish nothing except making the rest of us look bad. It's ridiculous.
I have my privacy concerns about using the internet, as do many people I know, but folks who write half-truths and spread FUD like this accomplish nothing except making the rest of us look bad. It's ridiculous.
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Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
Moonraker wrote:http://ip-api.com/
this is being blocked by ublock origin by an adguard spyware filter i should add.
I doupt.Moonchild wrote:Then whomever is in charge of that filter list should be taken out back for some "re-education".
http://ip-api.com/ is also blocked by easyprivacy too and MVPS HOSTS and
hpHosts’tracking servers.
Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
Just because people are copying each other's list entries doesn't mean they are right in doing so.
ip-api.com is most certainly NOT a tracker, and isn't a privacy issue.
I think someone added it because some websites display a widget with publicly available geolocation data retrieved from that API, and for an uneducated user that might seem like an invasion of privacy (oh no! this website knows my location!) while, in fact, the website owners:
ip-api.com is most certainly NOT a tracker, and isn't a privacy issue.
I think someone added it because some websites display a widget with publicly available geolocation data retrieved from that API, and for an uneducated user that might seem like an invasion of privacy (oh no! this website knows my location!) while, in fact, the website owners:
- Already have that data in their web server log because they know your IP. Blocking the geoip lookup in the web page will make no difference.
- Aren't involved at all in that data being presented to you (since it'll be your browser directly retrieving the geo data)
"Sometimes, the best way to get what you want is to be a good person." -- Louis Rossmann
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
I doubt also.superA wrote: I doupt.
http://ip-api.com/ is also blocked by easyprivacy too and MVPS HOSTS and
hpHosts’tracking servers.
The site works fine with uBlock and the EasyPrivacy filter list. Can't tell about the other filter lists since I don't use them.
Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
I agree with MC, they are copying each other's list entries and the rule is in fact useless.
gepus
Before you start doupting check easyprivacy again.
It is blocked as a third party, the others block it as a first party just like adguard s everywear.
gepus
Before you start doupting check easyprivacy again.
It is blocked as a third party, the others block it as a first party just like adguard s everywear.
Re: IP-API.com discussion
It shouldn't even be blocked as a 3rd party because it's not a tracker or ad server, at all. It's a geo lookup tool (translates IP addresses to geographical locations), and that's all.
It's actually a problem if it's in a hosts list you're using, because it will prevent Pale Moon from performing geolocation lookups even if you want to allow it on a specific website.
It's actually a problem if it's in a hosts list you're using, because it will prevent Pale Moon from performing geolocation lookups even if you want to allow it on a specific website.
"Sometimes, the best way to get what you want is to be a good person." -- Louis Rossmann
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: About the "spyware watchdog" article on Pale Moon
Sorry but I'm still doubting and for a good reason:superA wrote: Before you start doupting check easyprivacy again.
It is blocked as a third party, the others block it as a first party just like adguard s everywear.
https://i.postimg.cc/Pxn3pNTP/2019-02-21-213957.png
Re: IP-API.com discussion
So what exactly is the reason? your screenshot doesn't show me anything unwanted.gepus wrote:Sorry but I'm still doubting and for a good reason:
https://i.postimg.cc/Pxn3pNTP/2019-02-21-213957.png
"Sometimes, the best way to get what you want is to be a good person." -- Louis Rossmann
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: IP-API.com discussion
I'm not sure if this is offtopic or not, but why would anyone even need to use geolocation in the desktop browser?
Re: IP-API.com discussion
... You're kidding, right?JustOff wrote:I'm not sure if this is offtopic or not, but why would anyone even need to use geolocation in the desktop browser?
Websites will regularly request geolocation to be able to provide you with catered local services. That's not something exclusively reserved to mobile devices. E.g. a store chain may want to get your location to be able to select the relevant store in your area for contacting information or local offers. A train site might use it to provide travel planning from your home to where you want to go, etc.
"Sometimes, the best way to get what you want is to be a good person." -- Louis Rossmann
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: IP-API.com discussion
I'm serious, they already know my ip, so why would I care to provide any additional data? I've never allowed it and everything was fine.Moonchild wrote:Websites will regularly request geolocation to be able to provide you with catered local services.
Re: IP-API.com discussion
I doubt that superA is right by claiming that EasyPrivacy filter list is blocking http://ip-api.com/.Moonchild wrote:So what exactly is the reason? your screenshot doesn't show me anything unwanted.gepus wrote:Sorry but I'm still doubting and for a good reason:
https://i.postimg.cc/Pxn3pNTP/2019-02-21-213957.png
See here.
My screenshot shows that it doesn't. No wonder that you can't see anything unwanted.
Re: IP-API.com discussion
I'm serious too. Websites that do it properly will ASK you. The IP they see from the server end might, after all, not be the outbound IP of your actual connection, meaning there's a good chance of error.JustOff wrote:I'm serious, they already know my ip, so why would I care to provide any additional data? I've never allowed it and everything was fine.Moonchild wrote:Websites will regularly request geolocation to be able to provide you with catered local services.
Also, there is no "additional" data. Either they look up the IP address server-side and get latitude/longitude, or they ask the browser to provide latitude/longitude through a geo lookup.
"Sometimes, the best way to get what you want is to be a good person." -- Louis Rossmann
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
"Seek wisdom, not knowledge. Knowledge is of the past; wisdom is of the future." -- Native American proverb
"Linux makes everything difficult." -- Lyceus Anubite
Re: IP-API.com discussion
But in such situations, the data provided by IP-API.com will also be incorrect.Moonchild wrote:The IP they see from the server end might, after all, not be the outbound IP of your actual connection, meaning there's a good chance of error.
If I use a mobile device, it can potentially provide more accurate data, but on the desktop the only source for this is my ip, so I really don't understand why should I care.Also, there is no "additional" data. Either they look up the IP address server-side and get latitude/longitude, or they ask the browser to provide latitude/longitude through a geo lookup.