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Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by hujan86 » 2018-12-10, 00:21

Wanting to upgrade my SSD for quite some time. Although it uses SLC NAND (according to reading by Intel Toolbox software, it won't start to die anytime soon), it is limited by its small capacity of 120GB. So it's a big no-no for installing games like Nier Automata & Titanfall 2. Is it possible to determine a new SSD's potential reliability by looking at the overall specs in their respective datasheets?

Kingston HyperX Fury (non-RGB, 2014-2015 model) 480GB:
TBW: 750TB
MTBF: 1 millions hours
NAND: MLC
Warranty: 3 years

ADATA Ultimate SU900 512GB:
TBW: 400TB
MTBF: 2 millions hours
NAND: 3D MLC
Warranty: 5 years

ADATA Ultimate SU800 512GB:
TBW: 400TB
MTBF: 2 millions hours
NAND: 3D TLC
Warranty: 3 years

Crucial MX500 500GB:
TBW: 180TB
MTTF: 1.8 million hours
NAND: 3D TLC
Warranty: 5 years

Western Digital Blue 500GB:
TBW: 200TB
MTTF: 1.75 million hours
NAND: 3D TLC
Warranty: 5 years

Kingston looks to be the best choice for having the highest endurance numbers and utilizes MLC instead of TLC, but it is backed by a short warranty period and have a "life expectancy" of 1 millions hours. Does MTBF matter or should I just look at TBW?
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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-12-10, 01:12

I am using my second ADATA SSD and have zero complaints about them. They are
as fast as they are rated and I found out after I thought my first one had died
that it was simply not being recognized by the bios and that there are ways to
get it back. But I did not know that then and purchased another.

My first SSD was a,
XPG by ADATA SX900 256GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Excellent
Read up to 560MB/s Solid State Drive (ASX900S3-256GM-C)
Was the best they had at the time but is no longer available.

My second SSD is a,
XPG SX950 240GB 3D-NAND Gaming 2.5 Inch SATA III Read and
Write up to 560/530MB/s Solid State Drive (ASX950SS-240GM-C)
And it is the best they have and is the upgrade from the first.

I purchased two others for friends.
ADATA Premier SP600 64 GB 2.5" SATA III 6 Gb/s
Read up to 550MB/s Solid State Drive (ASP600S3-64GM-C)
And,
ADATA Premier Pro SP900 128GB 2.5 Inch SATA III Superb Read &
Write up to 545MB/s & 535MB/s Solid State Drive (ASP900S3-128GM-C)
Both of those are still going strong.

After some looking, it appears that the xpg series SSD are no longer being made
in the normal 2.5 format and they are moving to the PCI express version instead.

I did find just a couple of them on Amazon but very few, and only one on all of Ebay..
Tom's hardware did a write up about the Xpg SX950 you can read here. :angel:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ad ... ,5063.html

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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by satrow » 2018-12-10, 03:12

Much depends on the rest of your components as to how fast an SSD will feel in normal use. I'd opt for the Crucial, here's what it can deliver in the better machines, duking it out with the Samsungs on averaged speeds:
CrucialMX500.jpg
The top performing MX500's as System drives:
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12752686
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12768478
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12751588
https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/12716550

Might be an idea to run a baseline analysis/benchmark with that site's software to see what's performing well and not so well, paste the URL for your result, we'll look it over and see if there's a weak link that can be improved upon, though if it's a notebook, they're often constrained by BIOS options, or lack of.

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Unread post by Moonchild » 2018-12-10, 06:56

Another vote for Crucial here. Been using a CT480BX2 as my system drive for quite a while now and it's rock solid.
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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by Giraffe » 2018-12-10, 08:36

Due to concerns over unreliability, I decided to limit the tech. to MLC. I bought this SSD about 18 months ago after some research; decided that I liked Samsung's 3-D NAND due to the large cells and lack of potential cross-talk, so splurged a small fortune on a 512GB 850 Pro (stayed with SATA 3 in case W7 didn't want to play with NVMe).
I don't know how (un)reliable modern SSDs are. None, AFAIK, carries a 10-year warranty.
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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by hujan86 » 2018-12-10, 12:49

satrow wrote:Might be an idea to run a baseline analysis/benchmark with that site's software to see what's performing well and not so well, paste the URL for your result, we'll look it over and see if there's a weak link that can be improved upon, though if it's a notebook, they're often constrained by BIOS options, or lack of.
I tried, but suddenly the monitor went blank and my PC whirred like crazy. Had to restart twice. Most likely the whirring sound came from my GPU's fans because the crash or whatever it was occurred in middle of the graphic benchmark. Can't tell if fault lies with Windows 10 or GPU or both.
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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by satrow » 2018-12-10, 13:11

hujan86 wrote:I tried, but suddenly the monitor went blank and my PC whirred like crazy. Had to restart twice. Most likely the whirring sound came from my GPU's fans because the crash or whatever it was occurred in middle of the graphic benchmark. Can't tell if fault lies with Windows 10 or GPU or both.
I'd want to diagnose and then fix whatever caused that before laying out any cash to 'improve' something that's faulty. Dig into Reliability Monitor and see what details were reported: Control Panel\System and Security\Action Center\Reliability Monitor.

It might have been a TDR but they can be very tricky and time-consuming to pin down and fix.

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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by tooshorttoolong » 2018-12-10, 19:18

Just get the cheapest one, unless it has terrible reviews, it will be good enough and last a long time.

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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by hujan86 » 2018-12-11, 02:03

satrow wrote:I'd want to diagnose and then fix whatever caused that before laying out any cash to 'improve' something that's faulty. Dig into Reliability Monitor and see what details were reported: Control Panel\System and Security\Action Center\Reliability Monitor.

It might have been a TDR but they can be very tricky and time-consuming to pin down and fix.
Doesn't say anything else other than Windows had shut down improperly and that it was "unexpected". I did update the OS from the Anniversary Update to latest 1809 version, then update the GPU drivers. Same result. But nothing like this ever happened when I played Halo Online or other games (old titles from 2010-2014). So I dunno.

Anyhow, my concern currently is to whether clone the system drive to the new SSD or make a clean install. Since originally it was Windows 7 installed, so the boot settings had been set to "Legacy+Uefi". That might be the reason why I can't boot from USB flash drive to update the BIOS.
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Re: Want to Upgrade SSD

Unread post by satrow » 2018-12-11, 05:21

Technical details should be available, watch this video. More info here.

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