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http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ -> "non-standard" builds

Unread post by JoeyG » 2018-11-15, 22:29

I've looked around on the forum, but I haven't been able to find any reference to this site. Please excuse me if I somehow missed it.
http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/

It caught my attention because it appears the person is making forks of both Pale Moon and Basilisk that seem to be created for Windows XP.

Has anyone tried any of them. I haven't.

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Re: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ -> "non-standard" builds

Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2018-11-15, 23:10

They are unbranded builds so there isn't anything that can be done to stop them.. But they should make it more clear that they are unofficial builds. I suggest users do NOT use builds from a modified codebase maintained by lazy "developers" who cut corners and do not properly account for issues targeting NT 5x. Additionally, any user of these builds is not entitled to support from us.
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Windows XP is done it was done 4 years ago and it should have been done in 2011. GET OVER IT. Use Linux or get a computer from this decade and run Windows 7+.
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Re: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ -> "non-standard" builds

Unread post by JoeyG » 2018-11-15, 23:33

Thanks for your reply.

As for computers and OSs, I have two machines with Win10, six with Win7, and two with XP. One XP machine gets turned on once a month or less. I keep it around because it has a couple of programs that won't run on Win 7. The other one is buried somewhere in the closet and hasn't been seen for years.

Anyway, as I wrote, I was just wondering if anyone had tried any of them.
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Unread post by New Tobin Paradigm » 2018-11-15, 23:37

I dunno why you are even asking about them here.. We don't support Windows XP or these unbranded builds.

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Unread post by JoeyG » 2018-11-15, 23:51

New Tobin Paradigm wrote:I dunno why you are even asking about them here.. We don't support Windows XP or these unbranded builds.
Again, thank you for your reply.
This General Discussions forum is an open chat area, so you can talk about almost any subject. Please keep things civil, though!

Please do try to somewhat stick to the relevance of this forum, which focuses on everything around the Pale Moon project and its user community. "Totally random subjects don't really belong here, even in the general discussion area.
I guess "everything around the Pale Moon project and its user community" becomes a question of interpretation.

Furthermore, a Forum search for "Windows XP" produced the following:
Search found 18298 matches: windows xp
It seems like I'm not the only one posting about XP. I realize this doesn't make it "good" or "right".
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Re: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ -> "non-standard" builds

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2018-11-16, 00:00

JoeyG wrote:Furthermore, a Forum search for "Windows XP" produced the following:
Search found 18298 matches: windows xp
It seems like I'm not the only one posting about XP.
Actually, that's a deceptive number of results, because if you look at the fine print under your "Search found" line on the search results page it really says ...
Search found 18318 matches: "windows xp"
Searched query: windows xp
ignored: xp
... so it's picking up all search results for the word "Windows" as opposed to limiting search results for the phrase "Windows XP."

EDIT: And it's kinda intriguing that I'm picking up 20 more results than you. Hmmmmmmmm ......

EDIT #2: Ah, because I have access to other forum sections since I'm a beta tester. That's why.
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Re: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ -> "non-standard" builds

Unread post by JoeyG » 2018-11-16, 00:55

Nigaikaze wrote:
JoeyG wrote:Furthermore, a Forum search for "Windows XP" produced the following:
Search found 18298 matches: windows xp
It seems like I'm not the only one posting about XP.
Actually, that's a deceptive number of results, because if you look at the fine print under your "Search found" line on the search results page it really says ...
Search found 18318 matches: "windows xp"
Searched query: windows xp
ignored: xp
I got your point, but I'm not sure if it's accurate. Please have a look at this image.
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As you can see, even though it says ignored: xp, there are lots of hits for XP on the page, or did I misunderstand you?

Anyway, if I have to justify my posting, I think this thread should be enough.
viewtopic.php?t=16241
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Re: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ -> "non-standard" builds

Unread post by Nigaikaze » 2018-11-16, 01:21

JoeyG wrote:there are lots of hits for XP on the page
Yes, true, but my point is that not all of those 18300 matches there are for the phrase "Windows XP." There are a lot of hits for "Windows XP," but you'll end up with even more hits for "Windows 7," "Windows 10," "Windows NT" and "windows" without any suffix, because the search function is not searching solely for the precise phrase "Windows XP."
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Unread post by JoeyG » 2018-11-16, 02:00

Ok, but l think we're off track vis-à-vis the topic of this thread.
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Re: http://rtfreesoft.blogspot.com/ -> "non-standard" builds

Unread post by Cassette » 2018-11-16, 07:01

If you're looking for a reference to that site specifically, you should just search for that site. A search for rtfreesoft results in only a handful of results. If you're looking for a discussion on Windows XP builds specifically, there is a thread dedicated to that in the Development section. You'll find a reference to the site you mentioned on page 12 there.

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Unread post by JoeyG » 2018-11-16, 11:42

Cassette wrote:If you're looking for a reference to that site specifically, you should just search for that site. A search for rtfreesoft results in only a handful of results.
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You must have pretty big hands. ;) I haven't looked through them, so I have no idea how many are relevant.

Actually, though, I was looking for reports of user experience with the builds the person has produced.
If you're looking for a discussion on Windows XP builds specifically, there is a thread dedicated to that in the Development section. You'll find a reference to the site you mentioned on page 12 there.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16241
Thank you. I hadn't seen that one.

This post, though, is as detailed as it gets.
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=16241&start=220#p153404

I was particularly interested in hearing whether anyone had used his fork of Basilisk for XP. I guess I'll just have to give it a try when I find the time.

In any case, thank you for your post. Have a nice weekend.
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Unread post by Cassette » 2018-11-16, 12:00

I don't know what search engine that is, but what everyone has been talking about up to this point including you was what was on the forum. And doing a forum search for that term gets you only a few results.

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Unread post by JoeyG » 2018-11-16, 12:04

Indeed. Thank you for that observation.
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Unread post by Moonchild » 2018-11-16, 12:41

Of course you can wholly ignore the fact that we used to support Windows XP and if you do a forum search you will find plenty of references to old issues and old builds.
That doesn't mean we support it NOW or that people are talking about it NOW.

As for the main question in this thread: unofficial builds are unofficial. Use at your own risk and own peril, and don't expect much if any assistance with the builds here. If you run into issues with them complain to the people releasing the unofficial builds.
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