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Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-17, 05:07

Has anyone else noticed that you can no longer download persona's anymore. Just get the "only can download with the new FF" button.

Is there a work around? :think:

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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Moonraker » 2018-05-17, 08:44

Have you tried the classic desktop section.?
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Night Wing » 2018-05-17, 11:00

I can't download FF personas in Pale Moon any longer either since I just tried it. I can in Firefox ESR.

Take for example one of my favorite personas, Fuzzy Navel.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo ... zzy-navel/

I can download and install the persona in Firefox 52.8.0 ESR with the green colored "Install Theme" button . But if I try it with Pale Moon, it just gives me a green colored "Get Firefox Now" button. Not an install button for Fuzzy Navel.

This could be a case of user agent sniffing.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Moonraker » 2018-05-17, 11:32

scroll down the site to "classic desktop view" and see if you can install those personas.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Isengrim » 2018-05-17, 12:28

It's a UA sniffing issue. I had to modify my general.useragent.override.addons.mozilla.org preference by removing the trailing "(Pale Moon)" to get it to work. Note that I'm using Linux, so your UA may differ for your OS.

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Mozilla/5.0 (Linux; X11; rv:27.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/27.9
Perhaps this should be updated in our default UA override preferences?
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Night Wing » 2018-05-17, 13:09

Moonraker wrote:scroll down the site to "classic desktop view" and see if you can install those personas.
I missed that earlier this morning. By scrolling on down the page to the "classic desktop view" and clicking on that, my three favorite solid colored lightweight personas (Fuzzy Navel, Blue Light 2012, Dream of Waves) can now be installed. This way I don't have to create a new user agent for the Mozilla personas. But I suspect, Mozilla will eventually do away with the classic desktop view thereby adding another user agent sometime in the future will be required for Pale Moon.

BTW, your tip works with both linux Pale Moon as well as with windows Pale Moon.

I guess Mozilla is getting desperate to get people to use Firefox (Quantum) with their new web extensions.

Thanks for the tip. It is much appreciated by me.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-17, 17:03

Moonraker wrote:Have you tried the classic desktop section.?
Thank you, did not see that down there. That did the trick. ;)

This feels like a desperate trick to get folks to stay with FF.

Glad there is a couple of work arounds. :thumbup:

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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-17, 17:23

Ok, so now I have a new issue with personas. It seems that almost 90% of them are loaded to the far right of the browser.
The left side gets filled with the background color of the persona and the whole thing is shifted to the right making most of the
personas look wrong in PM. Below are some random examples of this. I also noticed that the animated themes quite working
after about 30 seconds on restart. Any idea's :think:
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-17, 17:29

And here is something I notice on around 10% of the personas. The theme seems to be so far the right
that it gets cut off on the left side completely. Look real close and you can see a blue box on the left side.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Moonraker » 2018-05-17, 17:30

sorry it would seem my advice came with unknown caveats in regard to animated personas.Odd i have never experienced this myself.Could an extension perhaps be interfering?
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-17, 17:35

The only time it comes in right is on abstract pictures like this.
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And not all animated personas come out to the right or stop working.
Like this one, works great and fills the whole top.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Isengrim » 2018-05-17, 18:02

I don't know how themes are developed, but is it possible that some of these simply weren't designed for higher resolution displays, and thus default to aligning towards one side of the window or the other?
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-17, 18:05

So upon further research, I found that when just viewing the image "right click, view image" some of the personas are
actually put up showing the image farther to the right like this one.
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Even though, in the selection page, it shows it in the middle.
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But this is not always the case. Take this one for example. And some are smaller than others.
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And as you can see, this one shows exactly like the viewed image but still comes out way to the right.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Night Wing » 2018-05-17, 18:12

@ Thehandyman1957

After seeing your new Persona problems, I just downloaded and installed a lightweight Solid red colored theme named, "Abobe Flash" and there are no problems with it. I'm glad for my sake the Solid colored themes I like and use (Fuzzy Navel, Blue Light 2012, Dream of Waves) are working properly with Pale Moon.

But when dealing with Mozilla, one has to anticipate what Mozilla will do away with next to make their jobs easier so I'll be looking and waiting for the "other shoe to drop" so to speak when it comes to Personas.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-17, 18:25

Isengrim wrote:I don't know how themes are developed, but is it possible that some of these simply weren't designed for higher resolution displays, and thus default to aligning towards one side of the window or the other?
That is a good point, so I took my resolution down to 1024 x 768 to see what I would get. And yes, some of them would
show correctly. But not all, and the scooting to the right is still very evident even at that very low resolution.
Take for instance, this one. The view is the same as the preview.
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But when you use it, it's shoved to the right.
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Or this one, in the viewed mode it's the same as previewed but when used
again, it is moved very far to the right.
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And this one is the same, it's animated and the far left is black with no animation.
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The fact is, that was a really low screen level and not the average resolution being used today.
And I understand that the image has to be stretched out or moved to fit. I would just like them to be more centered if possible.
It seems to me that there must be a setting somewhere that controls this. :think:
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Night Wing » 2018-05-17, 19:51

FWIW, the resolution on my desktop monitor for my desktop tower computer I'm typing this post on is 1920 x 1080 and I have no problems with the Solid colored personas. This is with an 8 year old Nvidia GeForce GT 220 graphics card.
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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by loxodont » 2018-05-17, 23:17

Oh no, they did it ... Weeks back I read in the amo Themes forum (formerly known as Personas) there might be changes in the themes format, like dropping the footer theme which is the 2nd jpg file to display in the Status Bar (for us PM users). New Quantum Fox seems to natively support only the Header image. I checked a few "recently added" themes and in the JSON code shown in (old) Lightweight Themes Manager there is no footer link anymore.

Not sure but from the image samples here, they might even have changed how the themes headers are focused on. The old standard format of the header was 3000x200 px and these images were focused on the right side while the left side had been mostly unseen by users with standard resolutions. Many theme makers only merged their pictures to the right side and the left side of the header was just black, solid color or whatever.
From the examples it looks as if the themes full length (of 3000 px) is now squeezed to the screen/browser resolution.
If this really is the newest Mozilla idea and older LW-themes are all squeezed like this I guess some more old users will flip out now.

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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-18, 00:18

Night Wing wrote:FWIW, the resolution on my desktop monitor for my desktop tower computer I'm typing this post on is 1920 x 1080 and I have no problems with the Solid colored personas. This is with an 8 year old Nvidia GeForce GT 220 graphics card.
Haven't had any issues with the solid colors or even most abstract colors. But anything moving or with a picture of something
has definitely got some issues being shoved to the right.

BTW, my main screen res is 1920x1200 16:10 so I have the same width as you but a bit more height. ;)

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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by gracious1 » 2018-05-18, 04:02

I use the SeaMonkey rather than the FF area, and I have no problems installing personas. Perhaps that would for you, too.

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Re: Can't download FF persona's anymore?

Unread post by Thehandyman1957 » 2018-05-18, 04:34

Nope, sadly it's the same thing. Some do and some don't. This one is really bad.
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I appreciate the thought though. ;)

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