Super Anti Spyware FAQ #81 as threat, false positive

[bawldiggle]

SAS FAQ #81 is blocked by Palemoon "I am still getting pop-ups when I visit certain websites."

I have added it to PM exclusions list (using the PM wizard)
- other SAS FAQs I have visited to day were not detected as threats.

[Moonchild]

If they want to run an https server, they MUST make sure to renew their certificates in time.

Their certificate is expired. Pale Moon is correct to block it.

www.superantispyware.com uses an invalid security certificate.
The certificate expired on 18/08/2017 20:35. The current time is 20/08/2017 23:56.
(Error code: sec_error_expired_certificate)

[ron_1]

Off-topic:
A security company letting their certificate expire? That's comical.

[Moonchild]

Off-topic:
A security company letting their certificate expire? That's comical.

Off-topic:
"In June 2011, SUPERAntiSpyware was acquired by Support.com, Inc. (NASDAQ: SPRT)." -- so you may THINK it's run by security-conscious people, but it's probably not...

[bawldiggle]

SAS Forum has not looked healthy for many months. Spam and ignored "threads" ... not a good look, and does not inspire me.

Any suggestions for an alternative ?

[ron_1]

Malwarebytes Anti-malware version 1.75. And only version 1.75!

[dark_moon]

See that bad SSL/ TLS security from super anti spyware server: https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze ... pyware.com

MalwareBytes is a good alternative. (No, not only 1.75!)

[ron_1]

dark_moon wrote:
MalwareBytes is a good alternative. (No, not only 1.75!)

The newer versions have not gotten good reviews (and that's putting it mildly).

[bawldiggle]

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I had Free MBAM on this clean installed Win-7 machine, in the past month
- the MBAM nags with every boot were extremely annoying, especially when restarting OS, and no settings to stop the nag.
- uninstalled free MBAM a week ago, and tried SAS (from previous experience in years gone by)

I have MBAM v1.75.0.1300 archived --- dated 9-Feb-2014 ... ancient
- I will give the old version a try, before I try Spybot

A brief look at "Spybot" about an hour ago ... the free version also nags Compare: free-Home-PRO
Any comments from any "Spybot" users ?

AlternativesTo.net rankings were a good guide until (I forget which program it was) rankings for a group of alternatives IMO, were BS!
- one program a-wash with a very large number of glowing reports, normally AlternativeTo comments and Reviews are never so prolific

[ron_1]

I have never seen any nag screens from MalwareBytes. Is this from the newer versions? 1.75 may be ancient in computer time, but it still accepts definition updates, and that's the thing that counts.

I used to use Spybot a long time ago. My opinion of it today? It's crap.

[bawldiggle]

@ helloimustbegoing

Latest free version.
No more info I uninstalled free MBAM and removed from my programs archive

I only want to do manual scans, so the PRO version is overkill for my needs
Thanks for your opinion on Spybot

[bawldiggle]

Malwarebytes - Business Solutions . . . The ONLY location for free-personal-version rather than free-trial

Personal Free version $0 cost provides PRO features for limited periods

• Protection - prevents malware infections -> 14 day trial
• Stops ransomware attacks -> 14 day trial
• Shields vulnerable systems and software from new and unknown (zero-day) exploits -> 14 day trial
• Prevents access to malicious websites, etc, etc blah, blah ... -> 14 day trial

My concern is that I use VoodoShield PRO (whitelist AV) ... it has a hair trigger
- plus Free Bitdefender (a dinosaur but it works)
MBAM while actively scanning might conflict with VooDooShield

Two days ago, I was in desparate need of a Passwords Reader for Pale Moon
- inspite of my careless caution I ran the EXE and fought off a very aggressive Wannabe ransom ware attack
- I won ! Wannabe is very persistent. Thankfully I am cool headed in a crisis, and VDS was fighting off the attack
- VoodooShield was on top of it before I could blink.
- BD took about 10 seconds to show any alert, too much delay if I had clicked any buttons

[dark_moon]

Malwarebytes - Business Solutions . . . The ONLY location for free-personal-version rather than free-trial

Personal Free version $0 cost provides PRO features for limited periods]

This is the same as https://de.malwarebytes.com/mwb-download/thankyou/

Also i dont why you talk so bad about new MalwareBytes. The start take more time yes, but no nasty stuff and the scans are better.
But i dont use any of them as On-Access. Only as On-Demand so i only can speak for that

[Falna]

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A brief look at "Spybot" about an hour ago ... the free version also nags Compare: free-Home-PRO
Any comments from any "Spybot" users ?

It's certainly not good enough on its own (I also run Eset Smart Security + MalwareBytes), but FWIW I still run the old non-nagging manually-run version of Spybot (v1.6.2), just to update my hosts file blocks as an extra layer of protection.

[bawldiggle]

An update to my post on 21-Aug-2017
Not a good idea to use MBAM 1.75

This FileHippo download for v1.75.0.1300 caused disaster when first released in April-2013.
Malwarebytes forum dated 15-Apr-2013 Latest update marking critical system files as Trojan.Downloader.ED

The current problem with Free MBAM is it nags to buy PRO, and no setting to stop the nags, in spite of one setting to opt-out of "offers"
- offers are not nags ??
- with so many paid programs waving their flag at startup with popups, that cannot be opted OFF
- and freebies asking for $upport (and fair enough) ... BUT ...

[Moonchild]

(Moved the topic from the bug report board to a better place, because of off-topic discussion.)

offers are not nags ??

No, they are not. Offers are being informed of other products or services (potentially with a discount) for using something by them.

with so many paid programs waving their flag at startup with popups, that cannot be opted OFF

You have to realize that a free version of their products should be seen as a "time-unlimited trial" of their full product. That is the way most of these companies work. Why do they remind you constantly to consider a paid version? Because people will simply not think about them using a free product that does cost money to maintain and provide support for by a commercial company.

and freebies asking for $upport (and fair enough) ... BUT ...

But what?

[bawldiggle]

MC

I agree with your points ... particularly developers are entitled to be rewarded for their efforts.
- the current irritation is my startup has some very annoying paid programs that display a popup to tell me they are "here"
- not selling anything other than to "wave the flag"

I followed up on SAS lack of signature and did a fresh SSL Labs scan of SAS. The best they get is a "B" and that is with a renewed CA (?) 13 days ago.
- Pale Moon gets an "A+"
- an interesting few hours poking around in SSL Labs website, lots of reading .... and a better understanding of SSL and TLS (still learning)

Wanted: an anti-malware app. to do occasional on demand scans, minimum bells-n-whistles
- on access is not required ... VooDoo Shield PRO (VDS) only allows white-listed programs to run and blocks everything else. Suits me
- VDS recently blocked a Wannabe ransom, while Bitdefender AV was still thinking about it.

[bawldiggle]

Another update on MBAM v1.75 (from 2013)
- this "thread" on how to manipulate MBAM trial to be free .... life does not have to be so complicated.

I have had one virus in my IT life, and I started with Win-3.x
- it still comes down to common sense when digging around on the web ... and VirusTotal, sandboxing, OS clones, imaging ... to rectify ill considered choices.

My security specs
Voodoo Shield (PRO) ... an experiment on one machine (with a clone and image as backup)
Free Bitdefender 2017 ( BD Internet Security PRO (BIS) is too neurotic and does not like sharing the bed with VDS
- BIS installed on 3 other machines
Was using free SAS for on-demand scans