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Removing Telemetry in NVIDIA drivers

Unread postby Tomaso » Tue, 02 May 2017, 15:02

Tomaso wrote:
Tomaso wrote:you should be aware that the Nvidia driver packages has become really nasty collections of software, and God knows what they may do to your system if you let them!
Personally, I always run a custom install, and make sure to remove everyting but the drivers themselves and the PhysX software.
..but even then, the setup tries to connect to the internet like crazy!
Here's a screenshot that I took after installing the previous drivers:

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The picture shows all the processes that I had to block with my firewall during installation, and after running the 'LED Visualizer' to turn off the damn leds that lit up my cabinet like a Christmas tree!


Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, I installed the latest version just now (v365.10).
The sneaky install process also triggers, and tries to connect through, Windows PowerShell now:

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For those of you that haven't noticed, Nvidia has added even more crap to their driver packages lately:

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This can be disabled from the Nvidia Control Panel:

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby TwoTankAmin » Tue, 02 May 2017, 16:55

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I use the Nvidia GForce GT ver. 630 378.92 and do not see what you showed re Help in the Control Panel.
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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Tue, 02 May 2017, 17:14

TwoTankAmin wrote:I use the Nvidia GForce GT ver. 630 378.92 and do not see what you showed re Help in the Control Panel.

That's because they've just added it in their latest drivers.
I'm using v381.89.

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby dark_moon » Thu, 04 May 2017, 19:42

Tomaso wrote:For those of you that haven't noticed, Nvidia has added even more crap to their driver packages lately:
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This can be disabled from the Nvidia Control Panel:

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Thx, i disable that. Also take a look under windows services and disable the nvidia telemetry tracking service. I think its the same like disable the option

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:07

dark_moon wrote:Also take a look under windows services and disable the nvidia telemetry tracking service.

You're right.
Can't believe that I missed this.
NvTelemetryContainer.exe was still running, and still trying to connect to the internet!
Thanks for pointing it out.
I didn't spot it the last time that I checked in Task Manager, and since I already had it blocked with my firewall, I didn't notice any activity from it either.

Anyway, I've disabled it from Services now.

Also, I booted into Safe Mode and deleted these folders all together, just to be sure:
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\***.**\****_****_**\International\NvTelemetry
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry


Now, there's no more "Experience Improvement Programme" crap to be seen in Nvidia's control panel anymore!

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby dark_moon » Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:12

Tomaso wrote:Also, I booted into Safe Mode and deleted these folders all together, just to be sure:
C:\NVIDIA\DisplayDriver\***.**\****_****_**\International\NvTelemetry
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry


Nice find! I delete that stuff in normal mode

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:17

dark_moon wrote:I delete that stuff in normal mode

I weren't able to delete this folder in normal mode:
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry
..although, I couldn't find any evidence of its files being in use.

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:43

You'll find a couple more of Nividia's telemetry folders that you can delete at this location:
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2
..and a "NvTelemetry.dll" file inside of here:
C:\Program Files\NVIDIA Corporation\Installer2\InstallerCore

Also, there's two more telemetry folders here:
C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry
C:\Users\All Users\NVIDIA Corporation\NvTelemetry

..and a couple of telemetry files inside of these folders:
C:\ProgramData\NVIDIA
C:\Users\All Users\NVIDIA

But since modifying these folders requires you to take ownership of them, you should probably leave them alone, to avoid problems.
I think that what we've described in our previous post will make sure that the telemetry is disabled!

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby dark_moon » Thu, 04 May 2017, 21:49

Thx!
Add that to my block nvidia tracking list :D

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Thu, 04 May 2017, 22:02

I miss the days when I had a Voodoo 2 graphics card.
The drivers used to have a total file size of about 2 MB.

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby badnick » Mon, 08 May 2017, 16:42

Tomaso wrote:
Tomaso wrote:
Tomaso wrote:you should be aware that the Nvidia driver packages has become really nasty collections of software, and God knows what they may do to your system if you let them!
Personally, I always run a custom install, and make sure to remove everyting but the drivers themselves and the PhysX software.
..but even then, the setup tries to connect to the internet like crazy!
Here's a screenshot that I took after installing the previous drivers:

Image

The picture shows all the processes that I had to block with my firewall during installation, and after running the 'LED Visualizer' to turn off the damn leds that lit up my cabinet like a Christmas tree!


Just when I thought it couldn't get any worse, I installed the latest version just now (v365.10).
The sneaky install process also triggers, and tries to connect through, Windows PowerShell now:

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For those of you that haven't noticed, Nvidia has added even more crap to their driver packages lately:

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This can be disabled from the Nvidia Control Panel:

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How can be removed this shit "user experience.." because in my "Help" menu I don't see it but in taskmanager is a process called "NVidia user Experience driver component"? ( I have GT610)

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Mon, 08 May 2017, 19:32

badnick wrote:How can be removed this shit "user experience.." because in my "Help" menu I don't see it but in taskmanager is a process called "NVidia user Experience driver component"?

A friend of mine asked my to help him out with this stuff a couple of days ago, so I wrote these instructions:

At least, this is the way I do it.
It should be considered informational.
If anyone knows a better way of doing it, or think that I've missed something, then please let me know.

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby badnick » Mon, 08 May 2017, 20:08

Tomaso wrote:
badnick wrote:How can be removed this shit "user experience.." because in my "Help" menu I don't see it but in taskmanager is a process called "NVidia user Experience driver component"?

A friend of mine asked my to help him out with this stuff a couple of days ago, so I wrote these instructions:
NvidiaGraphicsDrivers_Installation&ConfigurationGuide.zip
At least, this is the way I do it.
It should be considered informational.
If anyone knows a better way of doing it, or think that I've missed something, then please let me know.


Thanks!

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Re: Removing Telemetry in NVIDIA drivers

Unread postby lyceus » Wed, 10 May 2017, 03:04

Sorry Guys if I moved these stuff from the Windows 10 thread, but I think that these handy instructions are worth a whole topic for them. :D

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby badnick » Wed, 10 May 2017, 16:36

Strange but I don't have the "NVIDIA Telemetry Container" in the services,just "NVIDIA display container LS" .

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Wed, 10 May 2017, 17:46

badnick wrote:Strange but I don't have the "NVIDIA Telemetry Container" in the services,just "NVIDIA display container LS" .

Which driver version are you using?

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby badnick » Wed, 10 May 2017, 18:05

Tomaso wrote:
badnick wrote:Strange but I don't have the "NVIDIA Telemetry Container" in the services,just "NVIDIA display container LS" .

Which driver version are you using?


NVidia GT610-version 8.1.1020.0

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby Tomaso » Wed, 10 May 2017, 19:28

badnick wrote:NVidia GT610-version 8.1.1020.0

I'm talking about the driver version.
Latest version is 382.05.
If you're using drivers older than v38x, then Nvidia's latest telemetry features aren't present.

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby badnick » Wed, 10 May 2017, 20:16

Tomaso wrote:
badnick wrote:NVidia GT610-version 8.1.1020.0

I'm talking about the driver version.
Latest version is 382.05.
If you're using drivers older than v38x, then Nvidia's latest telemetry features aren't present.


Sorry, the driver version is 376.53

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Re: The Windows 10 mega-thread!

Unread postby badnick » Thu, 11 May 2017, 04:44

Tomaso wrote:
badnick wrote:NVidia GT610-version 8.1.1020.0

I'm talking about the driver version.
Latest version is 382.05.
If you're using drivers older than v38x, then Nvidia's latest telemetry features aren't present.


But why my TaskManager look so for NVidia?
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